are there any other import tuner fans out there? come on so we can discuss import car

[blackice111288]

I HATE MUSTANGS!!!!!!! ive got a friend that was with 1 of his boys in a nissan (i cant rember if he said sentra or 240 zx) and his friend raced a guy in a brand new fresh off tha lot 2002 Mustang and won. i belive anybody that likes mustangs are, well, im not gonna say because i dont want to start a verbal war or one of those inflammotory posts of whatever they call em. Why would you spend 30,000 or 40,000 (i cant remember the price)on a "performance car" when you could save a couple more grand and get a corvette or buy a use civic for about 10grand or a old CR-X for about $2000 and spend about $5000-$10000 (depending who you get your parts from) and have a fast street car for about $20,000 less than if you wasted your money on a mustang . Now i have to admit, some of you mustang guys are pretty fast, but most of the mustangs i see are driven by a bunch of posers who think they are cool cause they got a mustang cobra, but could get smoked at any time by a guy in a tuned nissan, honda, or toyota. I love Dodge Viper GTS 's but i have seen a civic beat one with a 11.27@ 127mph. had it been a Venom(the viper i mean), nothing would come close.And there is something else i dislike. When i see a mustang with a fake bodykit that was originally designed for an import, and sporting Alltezza tail lights and a huge spoiler, it makes me wonder if the guy was stuck on stupid or somthing. I'm not saying that every thing import guys do is cool, because some body kits are extremely hideous or ecsessive,and some spoilers should be returned to the stores they were bought from. I mean, why would you buy a chome spoiler? and im starting to get tired of seeing the same body kits over and over again. But why would you try to turn a mustang into a JDM-type vehicle? or why would you buy one in the first place?

[FDA]

I've got a 1993 Trek 24' class A motorhome and I've "raced" a Nissan and "won". So what. Winning on the street means absolutely nothing. Absolutely. If you're on the street, neither one of you are really racing -- pay your money, take it to the track where it means something, and be prepared to watch tailights all day. Until you go to the track, and don't watch tailights, stop talking trash.

[Commander]

Yep, FDA about summed it up for me too!

You people can tune any thing you want, but, just leave good stuff like the NSX alone.

And about that racing on a track stuff. That's no good, either, because, it is usually intended as, racing on track, for a 1/4 mile, or 400 metres..

Why not race a lap of the entire track, and time it. That is what sorts the real cars out from the pretenders. So, a car might do a 1/4 mile in -0.3 seconds, but, what if it can not turn, or stop?

[FDA]

Race whatever: 1/4 mile, roadrace, dirttrack, ice racing... whatever. It all means something, while "racing" on the street can never REALLY mean anything.

(And I wouldn't refuse an NSX that'd been leaned on a touch Just do a quality job.)

[VQ]

Yeah I basically hate most imports cos I veiw them as Japans left overs (they have to sell the car after three years) cos it makes everyone else look bad. And V8 engined cars copying Import styles like the body kits and tail lights. I mean look at the VS ute Psyco!! It beat all the imports at the Auto Salon and became king of the Auto Salon.

And with the civic/crx thing it can beat a Mustang but you would have to spend more to get the car looking good as well as going and wat about making the car legal?

[blackice111288]

vqcaprice, im startin 2 see you as someone that just says stuff that the majority of the crowd is sayin so you can stay "cool". Im not saying that you have to agree with everythinr im sayin, but on every forum i see, you always add in one of your " i hope i know what im talking about,but it sounds good" comments. your the same guy that said that a bigger exhaust piping makes less horse power than the stock unit. And it doesnt matter how a car looks, its how well you can burn somebody on the 1320(the 1/4, for all who don't know). And I have never heard of quad cams in any street performance car. maybe they have then in your australian holdens or something, but i'm talking about import and domestic cars in AMERICA. I ve seen on tv and on the street where some V8's got there hind parts handed to them. and chris is right about the difference of racing a strait line and racing a lap. but one thing i dont agree with is that street racing doesn't mean any thing, every race means something. if you got served up, then you got served up. and when you say you raced a nissan in a motor home and won, #1, it makes me just a little bit doubtful of that statement. When you dont say what kind of nissan,that makes meven more skeptical. Not all of there cars are fast(mini-van, old ones that say datsun, stanzas). It could have been a hoopde for all i know.

[FDA]

Well, many street cars have 4 cams (sold enough of 'em to know) and larger is not necessarily better in exhaust piping -- in fact, for some cars, and loads of motorcycles, larger exhaust pipes ARE a detriment unless the rest of the intake and combustion system is upgraded. This is because it is all a system; it all works together. Street "racing" needs the quote marks cause it really is nothing like racing. Race and you'll find out what I mean. In street "racing" you can "win" by being crazier; and you can "win" consistently by being crazier. In actual racing, you just can't do that -- that's why they came up with the phrase: When the flag drops, the bullshit stops.

[Commander]

@ FDA: <clap clap clap clap clap> well put mate.

[blackice111288]

the reason japanese people get new cars every 3 years is because their govt imposes heavy taxes on older cars and they must be update for new saftey features, so they just buy new cars. sounds like a bunch of bull to me, they just need to make their cars stonger. i wish toyota would bring back the supra twin turbo. that and Mazda's 3000 gt VR-4. i think that they are called FTO's every where else. Do they get Civic type r's in canada?

You mean the fast by frumpy 1720kg Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4.

Hard to believe such a car could be so heavy.

[FDA]

Originally posted by blackice111288
the reason japanese people get new cars every 3 years is because their govt imposes heavy taxes on older cars and they must be update for new saftey features, so they just buy new cars. sounds like a bunch of bull to me, they just need to make their cars stonger. i wish toyota would bring back the supra twin turbo. that and Mazda's 3000 gt VR-4. i think that they are called FTO's every where else. Do they get Civic type r's in canada?

The Japanese govt has always had a hand in promoting their industries, and this is one of the ways they do it. It has the added benefit of having fewer polluting cars on the street, which in a densely populated place is a good thing. The Japanese also tend to like new gadgets; maybe they also like new cars.

No Type R's in Canada, AFAIK.

[VQ]

Ok first of I do know some things about cars but tothers I am basing on wat I have read and wat I have heard. I am predijuced against Japenese imports because there are too many on the road when really there were already enough cars on the road. then we get these cars from overseas and people still keep the old cars on the road unlike in New Zealand where they have to have roadworthy check ever year or something. I see all these people go around with their Skylines witht he big exausts and they think there original when 100 people before them have done it. Now I'm going toignore this thread and continue on with my life thank u very much.

Uh, forgive me because I'm stupid, but, what has imported cars got to do with old cars and too many cars being on the road.

Regardless of if imported cars existed or not, their would still be as many cars on the road, anyhow, that is just how most Australians are.. Rather than taking the more sensible (and environmentally friendly) option and using things like trains, a hell of a lot of people commute to work and back, in their cars, when they don't need to.

It is not efficient utilisation of the transport infrastructure that we have, and, it also causes massive traffic jams in peak periods, too, such as morning and afternoon.

If I did have my way, cars would be banned from the centre of Sydney, and everyone would be forced to use forms of public transport.. Or, you'd set up an intelligent community vehicle system, using fuel cell vehicles, or electric vehicles. The only other vehicles allowed in would be those making deliveries or picking up goods.

Their would be a number of stations for these vehicles through-out the centre of the city, and, to use one, people would purchase a smart card, and, when they want to use one, they just put the smart card in the card reader, and, start driving. When they have finished, they return it to a vehicle station, for someone else to use (and for it to be recharged, if it is electric powered).

This would immediately improve air-quality in the inner city, and, remove traffic jams, too, and would have other flow-on benefits, such as removing a lot of the morning and afternoon traffic jams, since less people would use their cars to get to and from work. (They would be encouraged to use other transportation systems like trains, and so on).

Nex thing on my list, is for the government to offer subsidies for people to buy hybrid-engined cars. This may encourage Ford and Holden to build more environmentally friendly hybrid engined vehicles, too. These cars typically have very low fuel consumption, and low emissions, too.

[blackice111288]

what does owning a skyline have to do with being "original"? What about how if you go to even the smallest of cities, you will always see at least 30 mustangs. and probably just as many civics. If i could get my hands on a skyline, i would even if every body and their mommas had one. they run 13.5 sec. in the 1/4 mi. And thats with the power limiter that restricts the monster twin-turbo inline 6 RB26DETT to 280 bhp. I am particually fond of the 4 door version for some reason. but i would just order the body and tranny, cause i would swap the power plant for a RB26DETT. Are the 3000 gt's called FTO's or GTO's every where else? what is the difference between the 2 models? Does any body besides me think that a RX-7 or a Supra twin turbo would take a mustang cobra?