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FIATLOVE
04-17-2003, 06:46 PM
HELP needed regarding RWD versa FWD driving-techniques


I'm playing GTR2002 trying to learn how to handle a midengine RWD car.
For 20 years I have been driving FWD cars, mostly small hatchbacks with large engines, so I know how to "push rubber to the limits", and I know how to take advantage of rev versa torque range in a given engine.
I learned to drive car when I was 12 years old, RWD the first years, then only FWD's later.
All my "active" driving is done with FWD, so all my knowhow is related to handle the G-force "algorithms" of a FWD car.

I wonder if somebody can help me, give me a lesson in the "core diference" in RWD versa FWD driving, and even better if someone knows how to drive a mid-engine or a rear-engine (Porsche).
A link to a website will also be good enough...

You don't need to be a pro to help me out, let me give an exsample:
In a midspeed S-chicane, with an RWD you can go trough it with a steady trottle, but in a FWD you need to adjust trottle (slow in, gas up, ease gas (eventually brake too), then exit early and hard trottle, or else you will understeer to much during the midsection of the curve, if using steady gas)

In a FWD, there is not much drift-angles, and my style is very "cutting-line" because I'm used to very, VERY tight winding roads.
And a RWD can be driven with more "driftangles" (optional given the type of curve) when entering curves, and different gas-input?

Can someone help me, please?

I really want to learn this :love:


Mads

DC_Targa
06-19-2003, 09:43 PM
Hi Mads,

In the "real" world I have to admit that FWD cars are much easier to drive quickly (but not ultimately fast), regardless of their HP. Hey, my parents had an 8.2L FWD Caddy years ago. Seemed the hood was 8 meter long or so.

IMHO the best way to get an understanding of FWD vs. RWD differences is on a wet skidpad or on dry dirt. An old RWD Porsche is a good trainer. The key to driving one of them is to go easy on the throttle because the $$$ to fix them when you go "offroad" BWD can be limiting ;)

FIATLOVE
06-20-2003, 04:41 AM
Hi Dennis,

In the "real" world I have to admit that FWD cars are much easier to drive quickly (but not ultimately fast), regardless of their HP

Yes, I have noticed this when driving real roads, I always use to "push other rwd's into a corner" , my fwd can be pushed further without going "over the edge" (drifts, slides, need to setup the car before entering curve etc., in other words "real race-driving"), wich is NOT ok to do on open roads IMO.

But when meeting the edge, it's impossible to drive a fwd as fast as a rwd (except in snowy conditions).
I do some virtual practice at the Ring, driving Alfa147 (very similar to my own car except the slicks-grip/handling) and in Ferrari Modena 360.
Now I have drived the lap some times &( , so I'm starting getting familiar with it's topographics and shape of the track.
After lotsa laps in the Ferrari I felt that sub 8.20 was beginning of "OK-status" for me, so I decided to try the Alfa with FWD, to see how I could manage to handle the curves with a car I know how to drive.
After 7-8 laps, I managed a 8.26, only 6 seconds later than the 360-lap =[ :")

In virtual racing, we have a huge lack of roadfeeling regarding G-forces in curves, I try to notice on it when I drive for real, so I can understand the game better (yes, I let the rearend "come out" in real, so I can study what actions I should do to make it into effective driving when driving virtual)

So I started thinking "maybe buy an old beetle or a Volvo 244 and start some autodidact practicing on closed roads", I wanna learn to set up a rwd before a curve :D

Imagine a modified 1968 beetle on rainy surface &( ^_^ =[ ),
and it's cheap to "rail" with too, ;)

:beer:


Mads