View Full Version : Build your own pc steering wheel!!!
10-06-2002, 09:40 PM
Yea, let's all do that (and kiss your Momo's goodbye 8)~ ).
Don't forget to "Click for latest update's" (ya might regret it if you don't).
10-06-2002, 10:51 PM
Some people have too much time on their hands :) I'll just continue to buy mine -^
Well I can't aford 2 buy them at at about $300 each so I might make on with good stuff cheaper and take parts from my current steering wheel.
Frank N. O.
10-07-2002, 12:36 AM
I found this site a long time ago and plan to use the gear change concept for a Focus WRC01 style shifter. The wheel will be a real one with the electronic optical potentiometer, just with a 2:1 or 4:1 gearing so it has 1.5 or 3.0 turns lock to lock and mounted on a metal axle so it wont become loose like my MS FF wheel is now. I also need a real seat to sit right and then it will be mounted in a frame with the real pedals (all three) which will be made with real positions, travel and feel, I have already developed how.
I cannot understand how people think it's natural to drive sitting upright in an office char with the pedals sitting half a meter lower directly in front of the chair and then driving like that. I have my wheel and pedals angled towards a more realistic feel and the pedals are sitting on a box so the height is more realistic but due to the unnatural ratio and placement of the pedals I get pain in my legs and knee while using it so that's why I will search the auto-recycling center for Escort/Orion parts like my 89 Orion which seating position was very good.
But if you drive well like that then np from me, it's probably because I had driven for some years before getting the PC wheel I cannot feel imersed driving like that.
Frank N. O.
10-07-2002, 12:56 AM
I'm also kinda bugged by the un-natural feel of the many pc-wheels, if only i had the space to simulate a cockpit :rolleyes:
I am planning on building my own wheel though, and like you, with real car pedals instead of the junkstuff i'm currently racing with. I wanna make one from scratch actually, might take time but it's the endresult that count's ey ;)
Well I have space so I'm gonna make the based on the V8supercars driver seat dimensions and it will go where I'm sitting right now.
10-07-2002, 03:42 AM
i'll just make my own wheel. unless you can buy kits i mite do it. But i'd rather just buy one already built. then if i have a problem it's always under warentee!
Looks interesting.. I might just bookmark that site..
For a actual wheel, I think I can get hold of a Ferrari F2002 steering wheel, for about AUD$5000 (it's a replica). Actually, at that price, I don't think so.. ;)
The local Ferrari dealer in Sydney sells them. Nicely done, too, they are. It's just a wheel, on its own, no electronics in it, or anything like that.
10-07-2002, 05:26 AM
I've just had a look at the site that @Unicron posted.
This guy has his shiznit together in a big way.
Having a background in electronics ( I know enough to know when someone is doing it wrong :p ) I can say that this guy has got it right. -^ -^
If you are going to make your own Wheel and pedals, this is the way to do it.
You won't go too far wrong if you follow the instructions, in fact, if I had more room in my room I'd make one for myself!
I particularly like the 'sequential' gear stick setup. Making it yourself means you can put it on the right side for you!
I must admit, that site is incredibly interesting.. I may just see what I can do about making one of those.. I wonder about force feedback..
And also, I wonder about the drivers for them, to make them work?
Frank N. O.
10-07-2002, 07:11 AM
Well with a straight 2:1 or 4:1 gearing the MS FF wheel should work as it usually does. The trick would be the pedals since they are to be from an older Orion/Escort including the clutch. But I need this to drive in Racer again, or other games. I guess you can put a stronger similar FF engine on it. My brother has fiddled with electronics since I was born (he is 14 years older) and he can and will help me with this. The motor needs to be much stronger even with the rally ratio of 2:1 = 1.5 turns lock-to-lock compared to the org. 0.75. But the game wheel is 25 cm I think and the real wheel is 38 cm's so the power increase i considerable.
But if it doesn't work with the control center I guess I will ask some programmer for help. The son of our best family friends is a programmer, maybe he can help me. I also plan on a system with a counter for the gears maybe with a switch for if the car has a neutral or not if it's for another game than Racer. I also have an idea for artificial ABS brakes, in the pedal at least.
My wheel would just be a normal two-spoke 86-90 Escort/Orion one, maybe the RS Turbo version with better grip surface. They can't cost as much as other RS wheels.
Frank N. O.
10-07-2002, 07:19 AM
I've been using a homemade wheel for a few months now. The base is made from ¾ inch think particle board. I machined the steering shaft from some ¾ inch hollow, thick walled, tube so I could run the wiring for the buttons and paddle shifters inside the shaft. I robbed the wheel, hub and paddle shifters from my old Thrustmaster wheel. The ¾ inch ball bearing pillow blocks are smooth and bullet proof. I used the a pulley, some roller chain and a couple of springs for the centering mechanism. I didn’t like the idea of gear backlash affecting the accuracy so I put the pot directly inline with the shaft. The potentiometer is coupled to the shaft via some flexible tubing to wash out any alignment issues.
I originally used a MIL spec carbon pot, but it wore and started spiking too soon. A post on one of the homemade controller forums mentioned the model number of the “spec pots” used in the TSW. They are conductive plastic and rated at 2 million revolutions. I ordered one from a local electronics supply house. The accuracy seems better now.
I used my old Thrustmaster pedals, but recently modified them by adding a locking toggle switch so I can change from single to dual axis easily. (SCGT only works single axis, so that prompted the change).
It took a bit of time. However, since I enjoy building things, it was fun.
@Chris, like the TSW, mine is hooked to the gameport. No special drivers are needed. You can set it up as a "Custom Controller" using the standard game controller options in the control panel.
10-07-2002, 07:35 AM
A few weeks ago i got a hold of a USB microcontroller (pre-programmed) and made an improvised mini-wheel to test it. It also doesn't required any special drivers, just the standard game controller options like Targa's gameport wheel and works like a charm, had it functioning in any game i've tried.
Here's the device ---> http://www.cypress.com/products/datasheet.cfm?partnum=CY7C63001A-PC
DC_Targa: Thanks for the info. I might try making one, when I get time.
It'll be an F1 type wheel, I think, maybe the Mclaren MP4-12 style wheel, which looks very simple to construct, accurately. The Benz logo in the middle wouldn't be a problem, I don't think..
well mines gonna be like the MOMO car steering wheels.
10-08-2002, 12:20 AM
The race sim central forum has a board dedicated to this topic. if you are looking for some interesting 'how to' websites, there are a few more there. Interesting is an understatement, as one guy used the footwell from a mini (the morris variety)
10-08-2002, 12:49 AM
If you guys want to get really serious check out this thread (especially the links in the first post by marcocale ;))