2002 Civic Coupe

[Kemperz]

A friend of mine recently bought a 2002 civic coupe, he is looking for an engine to put in it, he was wondering if you could suggest something, he wants a twin turbo in it if at all possible, or just a single, he always wants a very high speed, high acceleration engine, for the car will be for street racing. Thanks alot, oh yeah, he also is putting NO2 in his car if that matters for the enigine, thanks alot!

Well, I couldn't give any specific recommendations, other that maybe trying to get hold of an S2000 engine, and use low boost turbocharging, and intercooling. That would give you good performance, better torque output than standard, and reliability as well. I don't know how much an S2000 engine would cost, though.. It's a very special very highly tuned high performance engine, so, it could be expensive. (Honda must have spent huge amounts of money developing it).

I know the Lotus Elise crowd seem to like getting hold of Integra Type R engines to put in their Elises to replace the rattling old Rover K 1.8 litre engine.. The Integra Type R engine fits right in place (even the mounting points are the same), and, instead of just 85kW, you have 141kW, to move along about 690kg of car.. Turns the Elise into a screaming, high peformance missile..

I think the S2000 engine could also be used, as well.. (Drooling at the thought of 176kW and 208Nm of torque propelling a light weight Elise).. Imagine the massive acceleration.. The thing could surely match a Ferrari 575 Maranello for acceleration, at low speeds.

Another benefit is that the Honda engines are very light, lighter than the original Rover engines, despite their much more hard edged high performance nature.

[Aw614]

Maybe an RSX/ Integra Type S engine will fit since they are based on the same platform

[MS99k]

i dont know a whole lot about engine work but putting an s2000 engine in civic would that work cuz

Civic = Front Wheel Drive
S2000 = Rear Wheel Drive

Anybody know?

[Kemperz]

I was thinking something like a vortech engine with a turbo charger, that would run me around 270 Hp I believe. Then we got stuff like intake, exhaust, all that kinda stuff. He wants his car to run as high horse as he can, he wants it to be for street racing. Any more suggestions what we shoudl do? We're looking at maybe the wings west kit for his car.

[Sepecat]

anyone tried the S2000 yet.
I love the fact it is small and fast but not my type of car.:D j/k

[Aw614]

Not long ago the first successful swap of the RSX-Type S motor in a 7th gen Civic was completed. I think converting to RWD from the S2k would be very difficult plus the suspensions are different. The 7th gen Civic has struts up front.http://www.2k1civic.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=3&threadid=48042

[Justin Martin]

The only engine swap that could be done even remotely easy would be with an engine that is available in either a Civic or a RSX, which I would think has the same engine/tranny mounting points as a Civic. And even then, you'd better have a dang good mechanic do it, this isn't something a shade-tree mechanic should try.

Any other engine swap will probably result in a frankenstein mod that likely will result in a permanently screwed up car. An S2000 engine would be pointless, even if by chance it uses the same transmission bell housing bolt patern, you still will have to make new motor mounts and figure out a host of other problems. And all for only 240hp and no torque. The S2000 engine is not a drag racing engine, it's a lightweight sports car engine. Unless you abuse the clutch, you won't gain any performance over a stock Civic Si.

If you want more horsepower out of a modern, fwd compact, stick with aftermarket performance parts. You can get far more power out of a Honda four cylinder with aftermarket parts than any engine you could fit into the car would have, and for less money and far less trouble.

Yes, engine swaps can be done, but engine swappers fall into two categories, the first being extremely well thought out, well planned, well engineered swaps that took massive amounts of time and money. It takes a group of people who are experianced in engineering, fabrication, and mechanics to do this properly. When they do an engine swap, it's a work of art. The amount of time, money and skill it takes to do this is almost pointless since you could likely get as much horsepower out of a well built original engine as they are getting out of their engine.

The second type is spur of the moment "redneck" engine swaps that at best result in a car that is faster in a straight line, but will undoubtedly have a host of problems resulting from the poorly planned, poorly executed engine swap. Don't even think about doing an engine swap, unless you're an engineer and a mechanic, it'll fall into this category. Just buy a blower, you'll be much happier.

[Sepecat]

How much is the civic 2002? my cuz is looking to buy a 4cl and the civic is 4cl I think/.:confused:

[Kemperz]

My friend bought the Civic DX, that cost him about 19, 850 If I remember correctly.

[FIATLOVE]

He needs, or thinking of getting 270hp? The stock 2002 Civic R has 200... should be a piece of cake to take out 100 more from that engine. Or is that a "wrong" kind of engine for his purpose?

I can just say; LISTEN TO WHAT IH8COPS WROTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't even dream about doing a engine-swap if it's not a engine buildt for that car, it will ruin it totally! =[

Ehh, I forgot, 2002 Civic R is for sale in Europe, but maybe not in USA?

[Paco]

TRUST ME...IN THIS SITUATION THERES ONLY 2 WAYS TO GO...AND BOTH SPELL HONDA!

You can either drop the 2003 Civic Type R Hatch Engine into it, which would probably fit on the same mounts, and the traney wouldnt be that hard to change if you wnated to change it, but you'd have to get a new chip and do some serious tuning because the Type R tranny is a sixspeed, and unless youre willing to pay 3 and a half grand more (canadian) for a 6 speed tranny your stuck with your 5.

But if you really want performance you should just drop the type s engine into it. it would fit on the same mounts, you wouldnt have to change brackets...nothing. Its lighter than the type r engine, (HONDA DIDNT CARE ABOUT WEIGHT BECAUSE THEY WERE DROPPING IT INTO A HATCH ANYWAY) and tends to hit higher rpms and top speeds.

If you know "people" a '03 type r engine with 6 speed gearbox is gonna run you 7-9 grand, without probably about 5 and a half.

A type r engine will run you about 6 and a half with the tranny,with low clicks on it, brand new its gonna run you about the same.

By the way...hear no evil see no evil
:D

Edit: Trust me, dont make the same mistake these other kids make, dont get caught up in numbers, because believe me when its all said and done 270 is just a number. ASk any real racer> 200 driven right will beat than 270 driven poorley any day of the week. and it all feels the same when your on the 400 north goign to visit your gf at 1 in the morning and your doing about 190 ;)

[FIATLOVE]

Paco wrote: when its all said and done 270 is just a number. ASk any real racer> 200 driven right will beat than 270 driven poorley any day of the week
So true! In fact, if the driver is not highly skilled, the 200 hp-version will be much more easy to drive, it will act more cultivated and be more drivable. Instead of putting to much $$$ in enginetuning, use a good part of the bucks to increase the handling (shocks dampers brakes steering +++). Then you may be able to take advantage of all that power ;)

But you also wrote something about streetracing in the first post here, so you maybe ^_^ at us big time, remember to swap the clutch too, or buuuuuuurn ;)

Good luck with the project, please let us know the rest of the story too!
In Norway we have pretty hard taxes on cars, a new Honda Civic R costs about 60.000 USD ( ca. 380.000 NOK) &(