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PortuguesePilot
05-19-2002, 08:12 AM
I think that 1930's American cars and Europe's 1950's cars are the most hard cars to model because they're so round, some of them seem even biological. The cars that I find more difficult to model due to their flamboyent design and sexy curve lines are:

* 1937 Cord 812 Supercharged Phaeton
* 1952 Mercedes-Benz 300SL Coupé Gullwing
* 1935 Auburn 851 Supercharged Boattail Speedster
* 1957 BMW 507 Cabrio

NFS Bolide has proven to be an absoulte genius by modeling an amazing Gullwing from scratch, but all the other ones I mentioned are not made (except for the Cord, by M. Fernandez, but it's not very accurate). These are REALY hard cars to model, and most people don't like classics, those are probably the main reasons for the fact that we probably won't see any of these cars for NFS4.

Unless you're an adventurous guy who enjoys a real challenge. Do you think that you're up to the task? ;)

05-19-2002, 08:42 AM
You'd better add the following cars:

1995 AWD Porsche 911 Turbo
1997 AWD Porsche 911 Turbo S
Dauer 962 Le Mans :eek:

I shudder at the thought of modelling a 1997 911 Turbo S.. Very, very, nice car, but, a complex one to model..

One should also add the Ferrari 360 Modena too.. Damned bitch of a car to model.. I hate the 360 Modena..

I'd imagine that the 1932 Maybach DS8 Zeppelin would be tricky to model, too..

PortuguesePilot
05-19-2002, 08:49 AM
If I'm not mistaken chris, I think you modeled a Dauer 962 Le Mans, haven't you? Anyway, you're one of the best modelers out there, it was damn hard to see you quit... again...

And you're right, those Porsches are also a pain to model. The Maybach is also difficult, but I think that the 1935 Dusenberg SJ Speedster is harder. That's only my humble opinion, but what do I know, right? All I can do in CarCAD is Postman Pat's van and ZModeler is has hard to me as the Mandarin language.

Radical-Al
05-19-2002, 11:24 AM
Could I add the 1939 Grosser Mercedes? a true beast in the since of the words, weighed between 7,600 and 8,100 pounds, could only get at best 5 mpg and could even go 100 mph.

Got some more. Packards, Pierce-Arrows, Mercers, racing cars such as the 1973 Porsche 917/30, McLaren M8 series, Chaparrals and old maseratis, ferraris, and jaguars that raced in Le Mans. Right now there is a major slump for making these cars, because most people are only going as far as 1960s or 1970s cars and new cars, imports and etc.

SAMMAN
05-19-2002, 02:45 PM
Find some good blueprints and see if anyone will try i'll give the Boattail a go with blueprints

Aussie Muscle
05-19-2002, 09:09 PM
haha yeah, the 30-40's cars are hard. iv'e been struggling with a 1948 Holden with big curved fenders and hood (imagine its like a 46 chevy). Samman, at least you're more likely to be able to GET blueprints, a luxury that as an aussie car builder i'm not that well catered for in the b/p area.^_^ i can still laugh so thats a good sign

05-20-2002, 02:01 AM
Australian car makers don't give a damn about releasing blueprint images of their cars..

So, in the GT NFS-mod, the Australian (NSW) police car is the Subaru Impreza WRX.. We chose this one, because the NSW Police actually do use Subaru Impreza WRX police cars..

Dylan
05-20-2002, 02:06 AM
you dont need blue prints to make good cars, if you go to aussie muscle, look at evoness' HSV GTS

Remko
05-20-2002, 04:30 AM
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/Members/jr.marsh/slough/normale.jpg
I would imagine most pre-war cars with separate, swooping fenders would be tough to model. Unless you're a specialist in this area, like Samman here. :)
(I'm not sure if there is an Auburn Blueprint out there, but I once submitted a 1933 Duesenberg SJ to Scratch Made Cars. :D )

After Zizo pointed out that the BMW Z8 was a pig to model well, I began to think that it might be more difficult to get slippery shapes right, because all its features are so subtle. In that light, creating the original Porsche 911 or the 356 from scratch doesn't sound inviting (as far as I know, most of them have been based on EA's NFS4 or PU models)

05-20-2002, 06:29 AM
The 911 Porsches are awful things to model.. Easiest would be the original 1965 model.. Worst to model would probably be the 1995 911 Turbo, or the 1997 911 Turbo S, or, any of the other Turbo models (excepting the 2000 model)..

I suppose the new 911 GT2 would be awful to model, too.. But the car I don't like to model is undoubtedly the Ferrari 360 Modena.. I've had requests to do a 360 Spider (I even have blueprints for it), but, I'm not interested in doing one..


Easiest to model??

That would be the Mclaren F1, with its simple curves and lack of protruding body panels or bumper bars.. In that respect, the Lamborghini Murciélago is fairly easy to model too.. The MINI Cooper is also simple to model.. And of course, the Holden Monaro CV8 is easy to model, since it has such a simple, clean shape.

The 962 Le Mans from Dauer Sportwagen GmbH is a really hard one to model properly.. I didn't get it accurate on first attempt..

PortuguesePilot
05-20-2002, 10:23 AM
I think that the easiest car to model would be postman pat's van, hehe! (just a joke, here!). I belive that all-round "square" cars are the easiest to model. Much of the 1980's american/european/japanese cars are "square" like the 1981 Chrysler Cordoba LS, the 1983 Rolls-Royce Silver Spirit or the american version of the 1980 Celica GT Liftback. Don't get me wrong, if you want them done great, they're still hard to do, but since they don't have so many slippery surfaces, they would be less painfully to make (as Remko pointed out) and also using less polys.

Hey SAMMAN, congratulations on your very impressive 1933 Ford Coupe ZZ TOP Eliminator. By the way, I never found an Auburn Boattail blueprint, there probably aren't any avaliable.

Remko: where can I get that Dusenberg SJ you mentioned? It seems that I let that one pass, 'cos I never saw one for NFS4.

Remko
05-20-2002, 01:24 PM
Remko: where can I get that Dusenberg SJ you mentioned? It seems that I let that one pass, 'cos I never saw one for NFS4.

Er, Sorry, I meant to say that I uploaded a Duesenberg blueprint to SMC... 0=) Sorry for giving you the wrong idea. =[

Innotech2
05-24-2002, 10:06 PM
Well, I got yelled at for saying supercars are hardest to model, but since CPD went ahead and said it first, I guess Ill volunteer my Fulgura. NOTHING I have ever encountered is harder to model than this bastard. It is going to look AWESOME though. Heres a piccie from earlier in the mesh creation. I now have the mesh almost done.

Innotech2
05-24-2002, 10:08 PM
another pic....see all the damn curves and edges and air intakes? This thing is evil :)

05-25-2002, 12:38 AM
Innotech: Well, not all supercars and sportscars are hard to model.. Only ones like the Ferrari 360 Modena, the BMW Z8, and those sorts of ones, or race machines like the Toyota GT-One, or the 962 LM..

Supercars like the Lamborghini Diablo and Murciélago are simple to model, provided you have blueprint images of them..

The 360 Modena is truly difficult to model, because of the curvature of its shape.. If you don't have blueprint images, it's impossible to get the shape right..

Synetearis
05-25-2002, 10:56 AM
I agree with Chris..... not all super cars are hard to model, and also normal cars can be a pain, my skyline for instance was a real challenge 2 make and it isnt a ''supercar'' (for me it is though...)

http://nfsgarage.racerplanet.com/hs/carpics/big/191.jpg

so I dont really think you can say which car is the hardest 2 model, ok a typical Volkswagen Golf type1 is easier 2 model then a 360 or something, but still, take for instance a KPGC10, at first its easy 2 make, but if you look close it has a lot of light curves and which can be a real pain since you dont want the curves look static...

Bleh just my opinion

BLo0m
05-27-2002, 02:48 AM
Alfa 156
http://www.burners33page.nl/Blo0m/a156main.jpg
Maserati 3200 GT
http://www.burners33page.nl/Blo0m/32gtmain.jpg

They were brutal works - especially the Maserati with those sucker blueprints.

05-27-2002, 04:12 AM
Oh, I no what you mean about the 3200GT blueprints.. I've had them on my computer for ages.. Too small by far.. And low quality as well..

They were originally from the NSW Maserati dealer Antonio (Tony as he's better known) Granziani's website.. The man's mad.. He stuck with Maserati through the worst of times, and, at the height of the bad times, orders in a Maserati Ghibli Cup and decides to go racing in the local racing championship..

His enthusiasm for Maserati knows no bounds.. If only all car company executives, or dealers were like that..