The worst movies you watched?

So, list the worst movies you've watched.. Doesn't have to be a huge list, just some of the worst..

I'd probably have to nominate American Pie, I guess.. A simple theme, but, made without style or grace.. Maybe young ones who are desperate may like it, but, otherwise, its really not well done..

Another lot, from Denmark, did a film with an almost identical theme, but, with a decent story line, and, classy acting to go with it. The name of this movie? Well, it's called "Love at first hiccup" (1999). Quite funny, and well done..

I also don't like the predictable airline hostage dramas, ie, if the someone does something, the bomb goes off, or everyone dies.. That famous "Oceana/Oceanic" airlines 747 has been hijacked, missiled, and otherwise near destroyed too many times.. They miss the most obvious things, that could prevent the whole drama from happening..

But, it's worthwhile looking outside of Hollywood (and the mainstream) for good movies.. Europe is making some real movie gems, these days..

[MATT]

Driven :rolleyes:

[Gus]

1. Any film with Sean Connery trying too play a character other than Scottish.

2. Lord of the Rings: The fellowship - It has to many changes to be called faithful too the book

3. Braveheart, no reason just hate it

[[SK]HOBBY]

The fast and the furious

[[XR]1.8T]

Ghost of Mars.

[Spiderman]

From recent memory

Titanic
Armageddon

We don't watch many blockbuster/action type movies so the list is short.

[KyzrSoze]

"The One"

"Along Came a Spider" (the first ten minutes contain the worst special effects that I have ever seen)

"Behind Enemy Lines"


Sometimes, my wife and I like to rent one that we know will be bad - and then we have our own version of "Mystery Science Theater" with it.

[Myshkin]

I don't think I could name one that really stands out. I don't normally go to movies before I hear word about them, therefore I tend to miss the real stinkers (like Showgirls). Oh, and Spidey I would say that Deep Impact was worse than Armageddon (not talking about special effects, which I think Hollywood does a pretty good job on, if nothing else), so if you haven't seen it yet don't bother. Same story, slightly different line but IMHO worse.

On the other hand, the best movie I've seen lately is Y Tu Mama Tambien... it has some scenes bordering on pornographic so if that would offend you, don't watch it. Otherwise I thought it was a pretty good snapshot of modern Mexico... if you liked Amores Perros you'd probably like this.

[Ashwin91]

The Thirteenth Floor

and

Rounders (fell asleep during both films,lol)


Yours,
Ashwin

Myshkin: Kind of like that French movie that caused such a stir in Sydney recently.. I can't remember the name of it, at the moment, but, my goodness it caused an outrage..

I didn't see it, but, from what I've heard, the wasn't much to miss.. I've heard some comments calling it "vulgar".. In the end though, the film and literature classification office had all screenings of this film stopped..

But, I've seen quite a few French movies though, which would raise they eyebrows of a few people.. Seems they have a more care free, or liberated view of things.. ^_^

Some of the French movies are actually not too bad, but, a few of them though are really of the wall however..

[Spiderman]

I think you mean Baisez moi (F*ck me). We haven't seen it yet so I can't comment on the script. Vulgar? What century is this? Rather vulgar than boring trash for deadheads I say. We don't want to ban the crap so why should they ban the good ones? Blowing people to bits is not vulgar it seems but anything adult and real is.

I'll take your word on that review Mysh. Worse than armageddon? Wow.

[Myshkin]

"I didn't see it, but, from what I've heard, the wasn't much to miss.. I've heard some comments calling it "vulgar".. In the end though, the film and literature classification office had all screenings of this film stopped.." Are you talking about a french movie or they removed Y Tu Mama Tambien from being shown?!?!

There's about 6 or 7 scenes that really were about as porno as "soft porn", and yes it is vulgar but I would say in this case it mirrors real life... if one is talking about dialogue, the conversations were realistic, in fact it reminded me of conversations I've had.

More than anything though, in Y Tu Mama Tambien you see children of the Mexican rich, you see some of the physical beauty of the country, you see the poverty of some of the small towns, it touches on the homophobia of the "machos" and sometimes it is downright funny. Maybe you have to identify with personal experience...?

Anyway, maybe you were talking about the french film, but I would still recommend this movie.

[Spiderman]

I remember ai no corrida (In the realm of the senses) over a decade ago. It was full on hard core and got shown uncut over here. The theatre was full but around half a dozen people walked out during the showing. I suppose they didn't read the reviews first hehe.

[Justin Martin]

Probably the worst movie i've seen in the past five years or so would have to be Random Hearts. It has almost no plot to begin with, and on top of that it is slow as hell. It's the only Harrison Ford movie i've ever seen that I didn't like. Titanic was pretty bad too.

I'm like Mysh, I generally don't go out to movies unless I hear they're good. My mom will rent just about anything she sees, lol, which was how I saw Random Hearts. I gave up on it after 30 minutes of waiting on a plot to develop. Mom watched the whole thing, said nothing ever happened. Deep Impact is nearly as boring.

I saw Gun Shy and Evolution recently, both were pretty lame, but at least they had alot of action and a plot. Both would have been fairly decent if they didn't have bathroom jokes every five minutes.


As for good movies, pretty much everything i've seen recently was pretty good, again, I try to avoid movies unless i've heard they're good. I guess some recent movies that stand out in my mind would be Traffic, Panic Room, The Others, Miss Congeniality, Training Day, Ocean's Eleven and Gosford Park.

Gosford Park would be pretty boring to most people I guess, I even I thought it was about 30 minutes too long, (2.5 hrs if I remember right) but it's a pretty interesting biopic on mid '30s British upper class life. Lotsa cool cars too. :D The whodunnit part, which I mainly went to see, fell pretty flat. The movies really more a documentary on the relationship of upper class Brits to their servants. I can happily say that no matter how rich I become, I will NEVER be THAT lazy. ^_^

[Spiderman]

Favourite films is a hard one. My memory is bad.


Recent films: Not all time greats.

Requiem for a dream
American beauty
The Matrix
Trainspotting
The full monty
Run Lola run

Check out requiem for a dreams trippy web site here (http://www.requiemforadream.com/)

[Nappe1]

I didn't like at all about Predator II.

I found it disgusting slaughting.

- Hey, Boss? do we need a story line?
- Naah, just get that monster back, double amount of blood and kill everyone and everything... and oh yeah, make the begining start from situation where everything goes like hell already.


MATT: Renny Harlin ( Director of Driven. He is a Finn by the way... ;) ) has made pratically one good movie... if I remember correct it is Die Hard II. (it was sequel so he have to make it like producers like it.) ;)

and well, Cliff Hanger is another one that you can watch... it is not perfect, but it neither makes you feel sick, as most of Harlin movies. :)

P.S. when watching Die Hard II, remember listen closely that part where they drive bus down to water from bridge. (if I still recall right...) Harlin used J. Sibelius "Finlandia" composing in the background. Also in Cliff Hanger one of the two kids with parachutes has Finnish flag painted on Parachute. :)

Harlin always hides something finnish to his movies... :)
and only reason why I bother watching them, is to try find out what's in this time. :D

[DC_Geezr]

We don't go to a lot of movies nowadays,unless they're big screen blockbusters,like LOTR,or Spiderman(heh,Hi Rob!)The worst pos movie we ever saw was a free preview of a film called"Galaxina" that was shown after the flick we went to see,which was "Indiana Jones" Of course everyone in the theatre loved Indiana,but after about 20 minutes of Galaxina,almost everyone in the house got up and left,including us!^_^ The only thing(s) I remember about Galaxina was the late Dorothy Stratten,in a skin tight body suit:D and a scene where 2 aliens at a western dude ranch(don't ask) are talking in some alien language.The subtitles go something like this..
alien 1..Hi,what time is it?
alien2 ..Hi,noon.
after this most memorable exchange we left in disgust!:Puke:

DC_Leonard Maltin/Geezah/Ric :rolleyes:

[Domagoj]

Man how did the all time champ of poorness get almost completely left out here? THE worst scting scene I've ever seen is Stallone in Nighthawks :Puke: :Puke: :Puke: :Puke: :Puke:

The scene where Billy Dee Williams gets his face cut by Rutger Hauer on the subway platform, and then Stallone runs up to BDW who's sitting on the floor covering the side of his face that was sliced, and Sly goes something like "I'm gonna kill that mf" while looking at BDW, then turns to look in the direction of where RH ran off, and again says "I'm gonna kill you mf", then again looks at BDW and says "your f dead" (speaking at RH), and once more looks in the direction of where RH ran off, and says "you're f dead". He looks like a completely confused person that has no clue what's going on at all, let alone in a movie, plus he has a beard, long hair, and these retarded glasses that make him look even more retarded - I almost burst laughing so hard, and that section of the movie is only seconds long - but of course in First Blood at the end where he does the "dramatic" scene, oh christ, Oscar nominations!! (esp when he performs suckerfish mouth permutations naturally...adding to the serious dramaticism :rolleyes: )

Well, next up is Seagal, no surprise, and Jean-Claude, and Dolph Lundgren, and Arnold - putrous outings each and every time from these masters of the screen.

OH - almost forgot - Ben Affleck - most hyped-up wafer fare I've ever seen, along with Matt Damon - but perfect commodities for today's glam idiocy (Travolta ring a bell? YES! - you know, everything after Pulp Fiction). There are more of course...like Mark Wahlberg - dear god get into another line of work (oh wait people LIKE totally incompetent actors nowadays, they can probably identify with them better!), and the rest...well they seem to have vanished from memory, but they're lurking there somewhere...however some of the titans are mentioned here, as you will all attest...

And then there's Tom Green. Personally, I'd probably say he's the greatest comic genius of his time (even though he might be finished now) - absolutely nothing like that has ever been around (or I've never seen anyone near that level of "outlandishness"). Even Andy Kaufman and Robin Williams and Denis Leary, Dice Clay, Chris Rock and everyone else are tamer than snails compared to that... Of course it got watered down once MTV picked him up, but some of the old canadian episodes are the greatest comedic routines in history, imo, I've never ever laughed nearly that hard before, (and I don't think I will)...and yes much of it is tiresome, but the brightest gems shine with all the power of the universe (like the the first time you see the milking cow ones and "canterbury tales", etc). I have yet to see Freddy Got Fingered, and yes it's been rated the all-time worst movie in history, but I'm a big fan of TG's - I'll always laugh at his demented blissful states, no matter how outlandish - he's totally beyond anyone's "taste" meters or "sanity", so people trying to even start comprehending what the hell he's doing are guaranteeing no comedic value - it's how it strikes you when you don't have a clue what's coming next, not about how good a "classical comedic scene" it is...

Well, might as well round it out with some kingpins of crap fare - Wolf Larson (aaahahaah) and Malick Bowens (plays Simon on tarzan show - so bad he must be overdubbed, and still the dialogue has nothing to do with how his lips are moving, and when he says "Roger", it's like "wwrriaaadddgggerrr", with his lip curling atrocities - he's up there with stallone for inexplicable facial gyrations), and Billy Blanks and Jalil Mehri (ahha)...

And might as conclude with the total Overlord of self-derogation through mere existence...William Shatner (might as well not even START on his idea of music...^_^ :Puke: :Puke: :soap: )

[Cheyenne]

Oh, Domagoj! I hear you on Nighthawks. Another scene in that same move, Wolfgar - international terrorist - (Rutger Hauer) is in a tram car, and Stallone is in a 'copter. Stallone has the copter pilot fly him in real close to the tram car so he can show Wolfgar how tough he is. Wolfgar of course kills someone to prove how tough HE is. This scene is supposed to make us feel that, Stallone is so brave and strong and how evil Wolfgar is, but all it kind of ends up doing is showing how dumb Stallone's character in the movie is and how poorly written the film was.

Also, anything and everything in the move "US Navy Seals". Gosh, what a joke. Anyone like Charlie Sheen's character in a real combat situation would be executed. Disobeying orders and compromising others by doing it. Nice. Hmm, that brings to mind almost all Charlie Sheen movies. I think there are two great ones that he is in, "Ferris Buellers Day off" and "Being John Malkovich", both of which he had very little part to play.

Domagoj, oh, you had to bring up William Shatner? ^_^ Oh, man, I do like the original Star Trek for it's pioneering and themes. It broke a bit of "new ground" for TV and Science Fiction in the medium, but it will never get any award for breaking ground in "acting", unless it's to dig "six feet under".

[Myshkin]

Agh who started this thread again? I would have been perfectly happy to go on with my life without ever having to think about Nighthawks, Jean Claude Van Damn-I'm-A-Bad-Actor, Dork Lundgren, and Arnold Schwarzenevergonnalosemyridiculousaccent. Navy Seals?!?! Oh man I think I'm going to be sick...

Charlie Sheen was in Ferris Bueller's Day Off? Where? Oh yeah the druggie in the police station... good call. Only time Charlie Sheenhead is good is in cameos, especially where he is making fun of himself. Oh man what about Red Dawn??? It's been so long since I saw that one... I think I liked it at the time but I haven't seen it in so long.

Not too fond of Stallone's movies in general but I did like Rocky 1 & 2... 3 was kinda lame, 4 was kinda lame and 5 was horrible. Rambo 1 was, IMHO, okay but the others were progressively worse.

I would actually nominate Freddy Got Fingered as one of the worst movies of all time. I didn't even watch 5 minutes of it... I think it was on cable or something. Problem with shock comedy is it seems to get old quickly... first time I saw some of his stuff I thought it was strange and kinda funny... I think they showed some of his shows in the US before he got to MTV... MTV sucks the big one IMHO.

[Cheyenne]

Oh, no, now I've done it. While thinking of "good" movies I started to think about one I've seen recently called "Ghost World". Very good, but more of an emotional movie, about growing apart from people. Not everyone will like it, but those of you who do like such films might find it a real gem. It features Steve Buscemi (yes, yes, I know. Shhhhhh). That led me to thinking of another two great Buscemi movies, one, "Living in Oblvion", about the on-scene making of an independent film. There is just scene after scene of magic in that one. That is near perfect. Another absolute blast of a movie with Buscemi is "Fargo". A little slow in spots, but just theater of the absurd all the way throughout. Uh, then that let me to one of the worst movies ever made, "Escape from LA". Oh, no, Buscemi again, but oh-so-painful. Everything about that movie was bad. The original "Escape from New York" is something of a flawed masterwork in my opinion, but this sequel should have been put to the fire before ever being shown to the public. If you want to see an amazing John Carpenter film, see "Assault on Precinct 13", action and survival horror at its best.

Not at all related to Buscemi are another two great films that just kind of hit me in a unique way, one, "Momento" for just keeping on peeling back the skin of the onion, showing you what happend a few minutes before, and then a few minutes before, etc. Wow. Then, "PI", a great movie about a lone computer genious slowly going mad (or so you think) until you realize that he's living in an even more mad world. The end has a real unique twist that is one of the "bravest" things I've ever seen in cinema.

A couple of more movies, with another "actor" based theme, "Sexy Beast" with Ben Kingsley, gets incredible tension from it's portrayal of characters and their casual brutality. Ben Kingsley's performance as a thug who moves with such barely suppressed violence (yes, Ben Kingsley!) is stunning. Another fantastic character and social study is "Betrayal". Just about relationships, also starring Jeremy Irons. This movie just gets people and their actions so very perfect it's amazing. I own this one and trot it out periodically never ceasing to marvel at the subtlety of the performances and the brilliance of the writing.

Well, argh, I've spent a lot of time here and I have to get back to work - oh, one more, very absurd movie, slow in spots, but when it moves it's like nothing, the Cohen brothers, "Raising Arizona". The chase scene with Nicholas Cage when he robs a convenience store to get diapers for a kidnapped baby and his ex-cop wife (Holly Hunter) refused to let him into the getaway car (he didn't tell her he was going to "rob" the place!) and he has to escape on foot through neighborhoods - well, it just gets outrageous.

Oh, cripes, more, and more keep popping up! "Maetwan", one of the best films ever made (Spiderman, have you seen it?), Joe Keenehan, damn. Do they make men like that any more? Yes, yes, it appears to be about commies and the worker's revolution at a Virginia coal mine, also starring James Earl Jones (yes, the voice of Darth Vader). An absolutely incredible movie about people and the struggle for dignity and a bit of self-determination.

"Mindwalk", about the revolution of the scientific understanding of the Systems Theory. Beautiful. Personally, the Systems Theory, in my opinion, is flawed, as it eschews any understanding of Descartes, which is also flawed. But you don't come to understandings by avoiding certain knowledge. Still an incredible film.

Film noir faves, "Night of the Hunter" directed by Charles Laughton, starring Robert Mitchum. This is a masterwork.

Another Mitchum masterpiece is "Out of the Past", also featuring Kirk Douglas. The fast paced, machine gun fire dialog in this one is amazing. Also the grizzled detective is "perfected" in this one. The film "Against all Odds" is basically a pale immitation of this original.

Another great noir classic is "Suddenly" with Joan Crawford and Jack Palance. Film noir is all about taking advantages of the technology and techniques of the black and white film era. This movie does that almost like no other.

One last one, before I go, not film noir, but fantastic nonetheless, is "The Lion in Winter" with Peter O'toole, Katherine Hepburn and Anthony Hopkins. About King Henry, Eleanor of Aquataine and their various princes over one Christmas holiday. This is a cinematic great.

Okay, that was my last one? Oh, I can't stop.

If you guys don't mind some great "chick" movies (it might even put you to rights with your lady) there are two that are exquisite, one, "A Room with a View" is just pure magic, but even it is surpassed by "Enchanted April". Both great films along the lines of living, loving and learning to take things a bit less seriously and just feeling some "joy".

I will stop there, even though I can go on forever. There is an awful lot of great cinema/vid out there to explore. Often I feel I have barely touched upon it. But it's a great thing to know that there are wonders out there waiting to be discovered.

Peace and love to you all... :love:

Whoa, whoa, whoa, one more..., always just one more...

"On the Beach", Gregory Peck, Ava Gardner, Fred Astaire. I usually don't cry at movies, but this one hit me where it counts. I spent a large portion of my very young life in the United States (eight whole years!) under the presidency of Ronald Reagan. My family has always been quite "liberal" and as such, this guy was truly scary, how out of touch he was, how "fantasyland" he saw the world. He surrounded himself with the mosty cynical and corrupt people I could imagine, Jerry Falwell, Ed Meese (sorry if you dig those guys, this IS just my opinion) and to me there just seemed some times when the "Cold War" looked not so "cold". This movie is about the possible outcome of a war between the superpowers, but it disregards any science fiction elements for concentrating on the "human" tragedies that such a thing would bring. The growing sense of loss and desparation as the "end" becomes nearer. Another decent treatment of this is the more modern "Testament", which generally gets it all right also, but is a bit less powerful.

Okay, that's it, I'm going to stop (CHEY, STOPPPPP!). I might be back, but that's for another post! ^_^

[Spiderman]

Here's another one I liked. I can't remember the title but and I am crap with names of actors. Maybe it was Nicholas Cage? It starts off with a man driving along in a sports car in the back roads of some state in The USA. Everything seems sweet until he developes engine problems. He stops at some hick town to get it fixed and that is when things start to go downhill. All he has to do is deliver some cash to the mafia that he owes on some bets. Seems easy enough. Then he meets this girl, the garage owner is a crook, the sherrif hates him, he gets in fights with a jealous lover of a teen temptress and the only sane individual is an old blind, black man with a dead dog... I won't spoil the ending :) Anyone seen it?

[KyzrSoze]

The 100 worst movies of all time as listed on the internet movie database.

http://us.imdb.com/bottom_100_films

[Cheyenne]

Spiderman, that was Sean Penn, I believe. Damn, I can't remember the title either. Yes, that was totally weird and loveable at the same time. Definitely "off-the-wall". I'll see if I can find it...

[Cheyenne]

Ah, I think I have it, "U-Turn"! is that it? Sean Penn, Jenifer Lopez, Nick Nolte, Powers Booth, Claire Danes, Joaquin Phoenix, Billy Bob Thornton, Jon Voight?

In it Sean Penn is driving a red, '64 1/2 Mustang?

That is an Oliver Stone movie, believe it or not.

EDIT: Here's a URL for a review of U-Turn (http://movie-reviews.colossus.net/movies/u/u-turn.html).

[Spiderman]

Yes that's right Sean Penn. I like him a lot. Yes it could well be U-turn. We loved that movie. Yes the red Mustang hehe. He should have been a little nicer to the mechanic maybe...

[DC_Dogz]

Man it is hard to remember the bad one's

What about
Evil Dead 3
Night Mare on Elm street 3 to 15

Here is one

Police acadamy 2 to what 99 how many did they make


Here a good one.. First wifes club
oh oh...father of the bride 1 2 and 3
oh oh oh That stupid one with baby's talking ..look how's talking and the 2nd one did they make a 3rd with dogs talking.. Look who's talking now ..I think

That reminds me Honey who srunk the kids.. and the sequals
Umm 9 to 5...,Arthur,Urban Cowboy,You got Mail,that damn Tom hanks movie Castaway

I got another K9 with was it John Blushie
Oh remember Blue's Brothers 2000

I'll think of some more!!!!

[[XR]Evo]

Worst movie I've seen, excluding myriads of indistinguishably bad video's, was 'Death Becomes Her'. It was ridiculous...Most of the cinema walked out half way :)

[Cheyenne]

"Death Becomes Her"? Is that the one with Meryl Streep, Roseanna Barr and Bruce Willis? I found that to be "interesting", not horrible, but definitely not "good" either. I felt it was a really great "greed" movie though. Showed up how absurd people get over certain things. Most people walked out halfway? Hehe, I'm glad I saw that on video. I do think I might have been gravely disappointed if I had seen that on the "big screen".

Oh, another "worst", I think it's called "Hanging Up", another Meg Ryan movie, Dogz. She really gives blondes a bad name. Walter Mathau also should have avoided that movie. He was, at the height of his career a sarcastic genius, but that whole movie was just really, really sad.

Another great, my father and I make sure to watch it every Thanksgiving/Christmas we get together is Steve Martin and John Candy's "Planes, Trains and Automobiles". My dad and I get to laughing so hard, the rest of the family looks at us as if we've suddenly become mentally deficient. I just feel it has a great combination of absurd physical comedy and poignant emotion to that film.

[Domagoj]

Yeah Planes, Trains is one of the best for that strange feeling - the most is from John Candy I think - the sincerity, and then the sarcasm from Steve Martin - man what those two elements do together...and how perfectly those two pull it off...

There are a lot of good movies that are really ignored, and never heard of again...I can't even start listing them - I can't even remember any really - but there's a thing about being a truly real-life movie that makes some of those indie films stand out...and still they never even get mentioned...

Eveil Dead 1 actually got 4 stars out of 5 in the Blockbuster book of movies, and Evil Dead 2 got 3.5 I think - just being so funny and purposely cheesy, plus being done on such a low budget, the charm of those movies is infectious. Hey, isn't Evil Dead 3 called Army of Darkness (I think that one got 3 stars) - man Bruce Campbell's gotta be one of the funniest guys - but all-cheese, that's his specialty...

Another guy most people love to hate - Mickey Rourke. I actually like him. He's got some charm about him, don't know what. Almost all of his movies have some strange cynical "helpless" feel to them - it kind of puts you in a certain mood - so rag on me if you think he's just lame, but he's gotta be the dark successor to James Dean in a way - "all cool" (and "all lame", so most say - so cool it hurts, so hut he's lame :cool: ) Oh yeah - that brings to mind Harley Davidson and the Marlboro Man - choking yet? :) Maybe it's because Rourke seem to always be pretty hurtin' lookin' (and the fact he always plays a ravaged character) that he's got some sort of "compassion charm", where you almost feel sorry for him, but instead of pity it turns into a strange compulsion to keep watching...

Oh yeah one more guy people love to hate that I actually like - Charles Bronson. Again, he's like an in-between for James Dean and the rest of the "modern cools". His "facial look" is the epitome of "aah I'm so cool it causes me and everyone around me severe discomfort", and he's as lovable as they get. Oh man all 5 Death Wish movies (vomoting yet?:)), are really quite entertaining. Forget the plot development - someone dies or is disfigured, and he gets revenge, simple enough, but the way he pulls it off is a laugh marathon - I'm laughing out loud just thinking about some of his lines - like in the opening scene of Death Wish 5 I think, some mugger/rapist says "Who are you?", and 'ol Charlie responds "Death" and shoots him - some of the all time lamest dialogue and one-liners ever conceived - you just gotta love it! :D ^_^ :Puke: :p :z

[Cheyenne]

Oh, I hear you, Domagoj, about Mickey Rourke. One of the most intriguing and memorable films I can remember, well three of them, actually, Star Mickey Rourke. "Angel Heart", wow, you've got Deniro too, "The Pope of Greenwich Village" which even the unvelievably annoying Eric Roberts proves to be an on-screen asset, and finally, "Homeboy", a very haunting and brooding Rourke film that, while being seriously flawed, is still highly memorable to me.

Oh, I've actually neverseen any of the "Evil Dead" moves, which is a bit odd, because so far, I love "zombie" movies, both nights of the living and dawn of the I find fascinating. Very "serious" but also an underlying whimsical cynicism that makes for a very interesting mix.

Hmm, Charles Bronson. I have mixed feelings about his work. If I'm in the right mood, I can enjoy it, but it's often violence for violence's sake, disguised as some supposedly socially "responsible" way. Still the films tend to mock themselves at the same time. If I'm receptive to that, I can agree wholeheartedly with you, Domagoj, though, most of the time, I expect a film like that to lead me better. The first one worked best, as he himself played a somewhat tortured soul who almost was a common-man made comic-book superhero. Many of the rest of the films seemed to just try to justify their own violence by suggesting that societal violence had gone too far, therefore the violence in the film was the answer, oh, gosh, which leads me to another terrible film, the "Osterman Weekend" which dared chastice Television for its violence. I think though, if one does take the "Death Wish" films in a lighter vein, it may indeed make them enjoyable, almost camp-like. If you're serious or philisophical about them though, the don't stand up!

Domagoj, if you can think of any indies which particularly stand out to you, please, share them! I love independent cinema. Maybe it's the "outsider" in me, but there's something special about a vision that isn't filtered through the mass-marketing machine.

[KyzrSoze]

Ok, how about his one. The most overrated actor I can think of: Dennis Hopper.

[Cheyenne]

Really? Dennis Hopper, overrated? Hmm, I haven't heard him "rated" by anyone lately ^_^

I think he portrays "crazies" pretty well, take "Apocalypse Now", for instance. Don't you think he was perfect there?

[FeZ]

Hello there,

Here comes 5 from my worst movie list.

Anaconda, it has JLo in a wet t-shirt in it but that does not help.
(City) Cobra, with Stallone, what a complete rubbish.
Scary Movie 2, I did laugh once I think
Junior, the one where Arnold gets pregnant.
The Postman, need I say more.

And here are 5 of my favorite movies

The Usual Suspects, with the best movie-ending ever. "I don't believe in God, but I'm afraid of him."
Kiss of the Dragon, Jet Li kicking French butt.
Scary Movie 1, I think i did not stop laughing at all.
Leon The Professional, Gary Oldman as mad cop is just amazing. "Bring me everyone - What do you mean everyone - E V E R Y O N E"
Bad Lieutenant, Harvey Keitel in one of the most disturbing movies ever.

Just some I could think off now

[FeZ]

@ Chey

I must say about Charles Bronson, all the Death Wish and similar movies he made where awfull. I belive poor old Charlie made only 2 good movies in his 60 (?) years career.
Once Upon A Time In The West "Did you bring a horse for me? - looks like we're one horse short - No. You brought two too many"
The other one, cant remember the title, where he played a mafia-killer who teaches another one, with a cool ending "When you read this, it means I am dead, it also means you just triggered a bomb"......KABOOM

[Strobe]

The worst movie I have seen recently has to be 13 Ghosts. Interesting effects but the story is absolute crap.

Driven - horrible. The F1's on the street of Detroit is interesting but it's not worth watching the rest of the movie just for that... For that matter, except for Rocky 1, which was only passable IMO, I dont like any of the Stallone flicks.

Star Wars The Phantom Menace - Geez, what drivel!
Raising Arizona - One of my fav flicks. It has a strange, dry, sometimes dark humor but it is hilarious.

Momento - just one bizarre mind f*ck. It's a fairly good movie. But for a mind f*ck check out Brazil. Brazil is a bit dated now since it came out in the early 80's but it is a trip.

One movie that I was surprised by was What Women Want with Helen Hunt and Mel Gibson. It is the quintessential "chic flick" but it was funny in places. Seeing the "Road Warrior" putting on make-up, waxing his legs and beating his chest was funny as hell. Not a great movie, but not bad either.

[DC_Geezr]

Ok since everyone is mentioning their favourite films as well..

Bladerunner..Dark,moody,brilliant soundtrack by Vangelis,and directed by Ridley Scott,and did I mention dark?

Aliens..damn fine scary sci-fi

Gladiator..whaddia know? another Ridley Scott film :D

The Producers..directed by Mel Brooks,funniest film I've ever seen.^_^

Lord Of The Rings..amazing special effects on a BIG screen..WoW:cool:

There are others,but that'll do for now.;)

DC_GeezARGH/Ric:rolleyes:

[Justin Martin]

I haven't seen too many Dennis Hopper movies, but I thought he did a great job in Speed playing that lunatic bomber.

[FeZ]

Hopper was also great as bad man in Waterworld and Super Mario Bros, 2 more movies for the Bad List ;)

[KyzrSoze]

Hopper does play "crazy bad guy" reasonably well, but he's still riding the wave of good press from the movie "Easy Rider" in 1969. I've just been watching him in the tv show "24" and he can't seem to decide if he has a slav accent or not. The best actors truly become the characters they play, he just does not seem to do that.

[DC_Geezr]

^_^ You noticed that too Ky?One scene he has the an accent,the next ..great TV show tho;how about that twist at the end of the show the other night?:eek:

Ric ;)

[Wazza]

Bad: chick flicks... Titanic... too many

Good: Matrix, Jurassic Park (93), Gladiator, American Beauty....

Dennis Hopper does play the crazy loony parts very well.. He just looks and acts the part so well.. So much better than John Travolta for instance.

I also must criticise Driven as well.. It's just not well done.. If you must watch a racing inspired movie, then, it has to be "Le Mans", from 1971. Starring Steve McQueen, and, even Derek Bell made an appearance in a cameo role.. Any film with the Porsche 917 in it gets the thumbs up from me.. And the racing sequences are all real, too.. If you've never seen what Le Mans was like back in the 70's, then, you should see this. Some scenes just have the cars racing, for like minutes at a time, without anything else, just the Ferrari and Porsche going flat-out.. It really captures the unbelievable Porsche 917 flat-12 sound.

I can't think of any other racing inspired movie that is any good..

[Remko]

Gone in 60 seconds with Nicholas Cage did not manage to entertain me for a second - and that supposed-to-be-"steamy" scene with Angelina Jolie in the Diablo made my toes curl. The fact that I actually paid money (I rarely go out to rent movies) for it is something I hate to admit.
Most Chuck Norris movies make me feel dirty after watching a few minutes of them. Invasion USA stands out as being particularly moronic.
Then there is Street Fighter: the Movie with Jean-Claude van Damme, that one made me cover my eyes in embarrassment a few times, even though there was no one else to see my threatrical gesture. :look:

[Spiderman]

Seems a lot of people don't read reviews before they rent a film or go to the cinema ^_^ We got Titanic against our better judgement because a friend said it was good dispite the reviews. Sadly she was a long way off on that one. We rented Armageddon in a moment of madness but at least it made us laugh, and I mean side splitting stuff.

[Cheyenne]

I saw Le Mans last year on the "late" Speedvision channel. I loved it. I remember getting a huge smile when I saw a 914 (undoubtedly a 914-6) on the starting grid for the race (hey, there's my first car! Woooohoooo)! The "plot" was very quiet and respectful of the backdrop of raceday(s). As far as I know, this is the only "racing movie" ever made. All the others are "movies" that have "racing" in the plot somewhere. Le Mans is racing with a "plot in there somewhere :)

Street Fighter, oh, no. You had to bring that up. Well, it is terribly on-topic for this thread. I had your same reaction. I have always been interested in Raul Julia's career. He's done an awful lot of good work. I was horrified to see he was in "this" movie (and even worse, wasn't it his last before his death?). Definitely an awful stain on the history of cinema.

[Radical-Al]

hey cheyenne, what about Grand Prix? there were some pretty famous people who raced in that, such as James Garner. There were real F1 cars that were racing in, it such as 4 Ferrari's, 4 BRM's, 3 Lotus's, 4 McLaren's, 2 Brabham's and a Eagle (my favorite) and 2 Film cars (Ford Gt40 and a Shelby Cobra). They even had cameras mounted on the cars which was new back then.

I should say this but I am stating my opinion. I don't like the new gone in 60 seconds for a number of things. I saw the complete car list on a website and they lefted out some cool cars that didn't show up in the movie (:(((). The shelby Gt500 wasn't even a real one (they built it and a Gt500 would never have side exhaust stock). The original one was the best. No computer graphics, they wrecked the car and it was real (of course today they would never do such a thing :(). You got to pretty much see all the cars. Oh and did I mention it had a happy ending? :)))

PS- It jumped all those cars and got like 10 ft of air and it was real air not computer imagery. Heck, in the ending credits you see T. B. Haleky doing dough nuts and 180s with his wife (i think or girl friend) and the car is wrecked or damaged heavily.

[Radical-Al]

should= shouldn't, sorry

I shouldn't say this I am stating my opinion...

[Cheyenne]

What about Grand Prix? Well, I think Grand Prix was fairly good. It seemed a little long and laborious though. I do remember seeing Le Mans on Speedvision and they had some interviews and things during the "intermission" or after the film. I remember someone saying that John Frankenheimer, the director of Grand Prix was on an airplane and was shown a review of Le Mans from some publication, and in that, the reviewer compared the two movies (like you bring it up, a comparison is a very obvious point as these are really the only two movies which approach "racing" with that much depth - there are other movies which feature racing, A Man and a Woman [parlez-vous français?]), in it he said something to the effect that Le Mans truly a movie about racing whereas Grand Prix was a "soap opera" using racing as a backdrop. Supposedly, John Frankenheimer got very angry and threw the magazine. I think those particular words might be a little harsh for Grand Prix, but speaking categorically, they are basically correct, IMO.

About the new Gone in Sixty Seconds... I sort of have to agree. Maybe, it's me, but I can tolerate and even enjoy a poor movie if I'm in the right mood. But examined critically, GISS fails on so many levels. And the stunts are ridiculous. The Shelby would be worth scrap after what Nick did to it. In the end, the movie just seemed an excuse for special effects (like far too much from Hollywood [meaning the BIG film industry] is these days). Oops, I am getting snobbish again. With all that, let me say that I did actually enjoy the film (being the moody creature I am, it must have caught me at the right time ^_^)

Veuillez pardonner mon snobbery?

[Radical-Al]

its beside the point if GP was a great movie or was slow or too long, it still was pretty good and had cool music. I never saw le Mans but oh well.

[Cheyenne]

Yes, Alex, Agreed! I was just saying, that in my personal preferrence, I did like Le Mans better. If you want to see it, I'm sure Speedvision, i mean Speecha... Speedchan... Speedchann... Ah, I just can't bring myself to say it. I'm sure that station would probably run it periodically! Keep an eye out for it. It's a good one.

The cars and the racing footage in Grand Prix were marvelous! ;)

[[XR]Bug]

here are some really bad ones!

"the cook, the theif, his wife, her lover"
Ishtar
the spawning of the slithis! this one is absolutely the worst horror film ever made. here is a quoted line from it.

"why do you call it a slithis?"

answer:

"it is just a name like john or bob!"

horrible acting horrible effect horrible camera work. worse than an ed wood flick.

then we have "cry freedom" which sucks!

"oh Lucky Man" Malcom Mcdowel did this just after a clockwork orange - one of the best films followed by one of the worst.

anything with the waltons in the name, waltons thanksgiving, waltons mountain etc. all suck movies! tv movie but movies none the less and how bout that awesome jaws 2.

Bug

:HB:

[Hank]

Was that a spyder Fred Astaire was driving in 'On the Beach'?
And SuperSpeedsters in 'Doc Hollywood' and 'Coming Home'?

Hope to cu all online soon when I get my CD-RW fixed :((

In the meantime I've been trying out racing download demos...
nothing so far matches NFSPU ...still the best game I've ever come across :))

cheersfernow

Hank :)) aka (AR)Sap :))

In the Le Mans movie, there is a bit of a story line hidden away, too..

I've recorded it on video, to go along with my massive collection of movies.. Useful for times when nothing else is on TV, or, when I'm bored, and the weather is too bad to go outside..

Unfortunately, I can't import any of it to the PC (no video capture card), but, I can make some sound recordings from it though.. But, really, it's the racing scenes that really make the movie..

[Cheyenne]

Hi, Sappy!

Oh, I'm so sorry to hear about your CD drive. I do hope you get it fixed soon. I PM'd you about some info in that regard.

Yes, it was definitely a spyder that Fred Astaire was driving. It was said to be a Ferrari, I don't personally know the model. But a spyder being a generic term for any small, open, two seater, minimally "cowled" sports car, it was defintely that.

Bug, well, I have to probably count myself lucky, I do love really awful horror movies (sort of in the Mystery Science Theater vein), but I have no seen Slithis. ^_^ I did see "Schlock" by John Landis, does that count?

Also, I do know I saw "Cry Freedom", but for the life of me, I can't remember any specifics about it (that probably speaks volumes as it is). Along that line though, one anti-apartheid movie about South Africa does stand out as a good one (at least in memory, it's been a while since I've seen it, so it could be a "filtered" memory) is "A Dry White Season" with Donald Sutherland. If my memory servers me correctly (oops, Chairman Kaga!) it's one not to miss.

Ishtar, oh, gosh, I'm going to have bad grossly-bad movie nightmares tonight. Thanks ^_^

This "Cook, the Thief..." movie, never even heard of it. "Oh, Lucky Man", same thing. The problem is, now that all these "bad" movies have been posted about, next time I go to rent something I'll be browsing the aisles and see one of those titles, and that little voice will say "Chey, look, there's a movie you've heard something about from a 'friend'! Yeah, pick it up, you know you wanna..." &(

Three absolute gems of teleplay that I would recommend to anyone who "cares"...

"A Case of Libel", starring Daniel J. Travanti and Ed Asner. About the excesses of the press, hardening of the arteries that accompanies being comfortable for a long time in your profession and maybe finding redemption in learning the importance of fighting the good fight. Probably impossible to find as it is an old HBO or Showtime production (not sure which) and I don't know if it garnered any serious attention, but views like a filmed stageplay (for all I know, it certainly might be...) and shouldn't be missed.

"A Town Like Alice" sometimes known as "The Legacy", gosh another Neville Shute ("On The Beach") Aussie-land teleplay starring Helen Morse (Peter Weir's "Picnic at Hanging Rock"), Bryan Brown ("FX") and the absolutely extraordinary Gordon Jackson ("Upstairs, Downstairs"). It's a production about survival, finding people thought to be ripped from your life, picking up the threads of disrupted lives and learning to live with people's differences. Once again, I don't often cry from watching such a work, but this one hits hard. Poignant, emotional and so very true to life with some comedic moments. Again, this one is terribly special. I have never seen a more "gentle" production.

The final of these three is absolutely amazing... "The Last Place on Earth", about the race to be first to the South Pole by Robert Falcon Scott and Roald Amundsen. The production is a little rough on the British, but as any country that does or has ever considered itself to be a super power, they probably had it coming (oh, gosh, please don't throw rocks!). It is easier on the Brits than the book (originally titled "Scott and Amundsen" and then retitled because of the popularity of the teleplay to "The Last Place on Earth"). The production, the script, the acting on this one will leave you with an incredible sense of "being" there and with an acute sense of understanding at least what author Roland Huntford believes happened. I have always had a high fascination for polar exploration, perhaps because of my family background (Viking - I know much of the Eddas, poetics and prose, by heart, and the gist of many of the chronicles and sagas ^_^ ) and I have never seen any other work that so perfectly desribes that pitfalls of this pursuit better. It's not just an adventure, but a character study and a hard won lesson on nationalism, it's pride and price.

[p5.]

Some recently seen *terrible* movies from directors I have liked in the past:

Mulholland Drive (David Lynch--a jumbled, confused mess. Lynch has admitted it's really two projects edited together...)
O Brother Where Art Thou? (Coen Brothers--wonderful music for a bluegrass fan to hear, but a terrible, stupid movie)
Royal Tenenbaums (Wes Anderson--trying to exaggerate all the strengths of his previous films, ends up with a film with no strengths)
Jabberwocky (Terry Gilliam--hard to believe Gilliam and Michael Palin could be so desperately unfunny or witty. I could only watch 30 minutes...)

Great Movies seen (or re-watched) recently:

The Man Who Wasn't There (Coen Brothers--their best ever. If you know Film Noir, you'll love it; among the most beautifully photographed black and white movies you'll ever see)
Big Lebowski (Coen Brothers--4 th time watching this DVD. One of the great unappreciated movies of the last decade)
Monsoon Wedding (Mira Nair--probably the most enjoyable movie experience I can remember)
Rushmore (Wes Anderson--5 th viewing of the Criterion DVD; an incredibly well-crafted movie)
Picnic at Hanging Rock (Peter Weir--fabulous atmosphere, beautifully directed; Criterion DVD)
The Ice Storm (Ang Lee: almost unknown, yet easily one of the best movies I've ever seen)
Brazil (Terry Gilliam--Clearly Gilliam's best, and it is aging well. The Criterion DVD is a great package)
The Third Man (Carol Reed--a classic that is as compelling as it ever was. Another nice Criterion DVD)
Best in Show (Christopher Guest--a hilarious mockumentary about the world of dog shows. Worth a couple of viewings--in its way, as funny as Spinal Tap, the ultimate "rockumentary", if you will).

Enjoy!

Paul