Fatal crash linked to video game

[heinrick]

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1138186924013&call_pageid=968332188492&col=968793972154

[Frank N. O.]

Stupid, just stupid. If they really did get the idea from Most Wanted I seriously think they should have their head examined since they obviously can't tell real life from fiction, and if they can, they should be put in jail for the public safety because then the only reason for their behaviour is a total disregard for other people's lives.

The problem is however that normal people that enjoy the games but don't copy it will get punished by this now, although I prefer highway or track-racing myself, and highway racing without traffic, like if it's a official race approved and supervised by police and officials and blocked off from traffic would be my favourite, I distinctly dislike driving fast around blind corners in games, and in real life.

I'd just like to know why the US Army has a killing-game out that isn't being attacked, and what about fantasy/RPG-games with axes and broad-swords?

My thoughts go out to the man's family :(
Frank

[Chaul]

bah.. Games don't make killers. There has to be something wrong with the person to begin with to act that irresponsibly. Games or no games, there would still be speeding, crime and accidents. You could just as well attack car manufacturers for making cars that allow speeding. or driving while intoxicated for that matter. :rant:

Tuukka

[Remko]

Oh man, no, here we go... =[

18 year olds driving Mercedeses (!) in an urban area (!!) and an innocent man pays with his life for their stupidity, its sickening. :wall:

Somehow I knew this was going to happen one day, some no-brain would step behind the wheel of a fast car and cause disaster. :no:
And then it would get linked to NFS, or GT, or Burnout, or whatever...

It's also the ultimate PR nightmare for Jon and his colleagues at EA, I can't help but feel sorry for them if they are going to have to deal with being blamed for this, once more media pick it up.

[Frank N. O.]

Yeah, it's stupid, and one more thing, street-racing has existed since before anyone short of goverments had computers, can anyone remember hot rods and musclecars of the 60s? What games where they playing? (my version of the rock-music-makes-people-kill-so-what-was-in-Hitler's-CD-case, Chris Rock said that I think).

And you both made good points, why make cars that can drive so bloody fast? 700hp MB's weighing more than a SUV so they are no faster but more fuel-guzzling and heavier to handle and way way too easy to spin out with due to an extreme excess of torque. Status that's why, status, and that's stupid in my book. And yes, how did year olds get what sounded like expensive MB's?

Frank

[Ayce]

I'm not a biased person, but my question is, how do these young punks afford Mercedes,s in the first place? Must have been Daddy's car.
Of course, that would mean the game is at fault, 'cause "our boys would never do that!":nono:
Bah, rich kids have more money than brains and no respect.:mad:

[chris]

This shouldn't mean the end of Need for Speed series. To be honest, I think it is morally corrupt to be recreating street racing of any sort. (sorry EA).

NFS, and maybe the fast and furious movies could very well encourage people to do this.

So maybe NFS should become circuit based. Or used closed off roads, sort of like in hill-climb racing seen in France and the rest of Europe.

Car makers are also to blame for making vehicles that allow drivers to go past the speed limits. I also think the first-person-shooter games are morally corrupt, yet I see the only ones getting attacked by everyone are non US Government supported - while Americas Army continues on without troubles as a quasi-recruitment tool for the US armed forces.

The idea being to get young kids hooked on the game, and then give them the idea to go visit an army recruitment office. Or have the recruiters go on "road-shows" demonstrating the game from town to town, as was shown on our respected Dateline program on TV here.

[Radical-Al]

theres been a lot of fatal accidents involving street racing... why should everyone think this is the first? as frank said, i only like highway racing if its legal (IE Silver State Challenge or possibly gumball). I think kids do this kind of thing cause one, its illegal, two, to impress their little friends or girly friends, and three, because of the *adrenaline* or feeling that it gives (which would be better if on a track).

[jtace]

There's always a moron somewhere. It doesn't matter and makes no difference if the game exists or not. I don't see anything wrong with making games do whatever the producer feels like. It comes down to personal responsibility. Either you're responsible for your own actions or you're not, no cop-out bullshit on environment or anything else. If you believe in free will then you can't for a second blame the game, the gun, the car, the alcohol, or anything else.

It comes down to people being responsible for thier own actions, or inaction, and the parents to be responsible for thier children and what they are doing until they are grown up and make thier own decisions.

I'm sorry but this is cut and dry and people like Hillary Clinton and the rest trying to pass stupid laws or place blame on something other then the person doing the stupid stuff that piss me off.

(rant off) :)


Sorry but it get's me mad when people don't take responsibility for thier own actions.

[chris]

Not really, Frank. Although you removed it, that was a well written reply and I agree. :)

[Te4o_bg]

I think that this one is a hoax.
No one , I repeat NOONE can survive a car crash likethat. I know that because most of my relatives are doctors. And my neighbour is a road patrol officer.
(and they have seen a lot)

[FeZ]

Oh that is just so lame. EA should not get bad press for the actions of retards like that.

They should get bad press for their bad games and their lousy support, but not for that. :p

P.S. Is the MS Sidewinder problem fixed yet ?

[heinrick]

I think that this one is a hoax.
No one , I repeat NOONE can survive a car crash likethat. I know that because most of my relatives are doctors. And my neighbour is a road patrol officer.
(and they have seen a lot)

I wish it was a hoax. It's not.

Here's another update from today. http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1138229413532&call_pageid=968350130169&col=969483202845

I don't have much to add that hasn't been said already. It's not EA's fault (althought this aspect is getting big press here); morons are everywhere.

[way124]

I say MW should have realistic damage model. REALISTIC. As in, a side swipe will send you in coma and thus demote you in rank. A head on @ 300Kph will be fatal and send you to the beginning of the game. Or maybe some unrealism... the innocent bystanders you murdered will come back to you as a haunted spirit and cut your brake lines during the race and reveal themselves in the most scary image conceivable just before you dump yourself into the river :D

[Baritone Black]

This article is garbage. Stupid children who don't play games drive their cars too fast and kill people too.

[jtace]

Games are about having fun and escaping to an almost virtual reality to do thing that normally you wouldn't be able to do. It's been done for centuries, anyone that has studied any history knows that war has been glamorized by many civilizations and games are no different, just modern technology added to it.

Take responsibility for yourself and your actions, it's that simple.

[Radical-Al]

for people saying people can't survive crashes at 100 mph is kind of stupid... great example is Art Arfons - Bonneville Salt Flat record breaker in a jet powered car in the 1970s crashed at over 550 mph (no joke - look it up on google if you want) and survived and actually tried to break more records later on.

[Ayce]

^_^ Umm....the Green Monster is'nt(wasn't) a normal street car though. ;)

[PROBEX]

Well they gotta blame someone so why not point at a game instead of the people driving the car... thats just stupid.... :rolleyes:

[heinrick]

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&pubid=968163964505&cid=1138315819969&col=968705899037&call_page=TS_News&call_pageid=968332188492&call_pagepath=News/News

The police are continuing to investigate this.

There's also a comment from a father of one of the accused. He doesn't sound exactly remorseful.

[Baritone Black]

What if there had been a copy of The Fast and the Furious, or Import Tuner, or a book about street racing beside one of the drivers?

[heinrick]

What if there had been a copy of The Fast and the Furious, or Import Tuner, or a book about street racing beside one of the drivers?

A copy of "The Fast and the Furious" would have probably generated a similar response. Books, probably not. Movies and video games obviously lead to the corruption of youth. Books are educational. [/sarcasm]

[ash25_nofear]

Come on guyz, having a copy of the game in the dahboard doesnt mean that he was influenced by the game. Besides u cant play the game in the car. People shud kno wat s right n wat s wrong. In the game starting itself, the general advice s given n the game player shud make a note of it. So a game s a game n real life s a real life n both shud not be mixed.

[nfs rocks]

stupid people. then why they make need for speed most wanted.

[FeZ]

Maybe they played MW on a Playstation in the Pimp-My-Daddys-Car while driving

[[SK]FR2]

Sad thing that happened here and of course it is not the 1st time something like this has happened, long before games that we play today. I feel the root of the problem is with the parents not to instool in their children the Value of Life, this is a lesson that must be taught no-exceptions!!!!
As the articale stated the one mother left the court room with no committ you know that was a crowd pleaser. Have a ? for u all why do we look over the root of the problem so often when it so clear, it is sure easier to lay blame than to take responciblity.

[Ayce]

" for u all why do we look over the root of the problem so often when it so clear, it is sure easier to lay blame than to take responciblity."


Ain't that the truth.