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chris

07-03-2005, 12:51 AM

Spoiler!! Do not click this if you don't wish to see qualifying results.

chris

07-03-2005, 12:51 AM

Spoiler:
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1 5 Fernando Alonso Renault 1:14.412
2 16 Jarno Trulli Toyota 1:14.521
3 9 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes 1:14.559
4 1 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 1:14.572
5 4 Takuma Sato BAR-Honda 1:14.655
6 2 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 1:14.832
7 6 Giancarlo Fisichella Renault 1:14.887
8 3 Jenson Button BAR-Honda 1:15.051
9 10 Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren-Mercedes 1:15.406
10 12 Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas 1:15.566
11 11 Jacques Villeneuve Sauber-Petronas 1:15.699
12 17 Ralf Schumacher Toyota 1:15.771
13 7 Mark Webber Williams-BMW 1:15.885
14 8 Nick Heidfeld Williams-BMW 1:16.207
15 14 David Coulthard Red Bull Racing 1:16.434
16 15 Christian Klien Red Bull Racing 1:16.547
17 19 Narain Karthikeyan Jordan-Toyota 1:17.857
18 20 Patrick Friesacher Minardi-Cosworth 1:17.960
19 18 Tiago Monteiro Jordan-Toyota 1:18.047
20 21 Christijan Albers Minardi-Cosworth 1:18.335
Notes: Kimi Raikkonen receives 10 position grid penalty for engine change, therefore 13th.
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07-03-2005, 01:07 AM

This race might be an interesting one for good reasons.....

chris

07-03-2005, 02:20 AM

Seems as though Ferrari has got some reasonable car speed (fastest 1st sector times, and highest straight line speeds by a very narrow margin).

I predict Renault will win. But if Alonso should lose his win on the last lap, I predict he will be fired from the team in the same nasty way as Jarno Trulli.

The Williams team appear to be having a disastrous race weekend. Wasn't Magny Cour where they were promising these big aero-changes for their car? Those were supposed to bring much improved performance.

And I wonder if Montoya will crash into someone on the first lap? )=)

FeZ

07-03-2005, 04:44 AM

If nothing goes wrong Alonso will win that race. Lets hope something goes wrong :D

SchuMacher just said that he is not really happy that Kimi had to move back 10 spots. He said he would have preferred Kimi attacking Alonso from the start ;)

chris

07-03-2005, 04:56 AM

And as Murray Walker said, "anything can happen in Formula 1 and it usually does". ;)

The Minardis might do okay at this race if they are reliable enough. The latest Minardi car has good speed on the straights, even if it doesn't corner that well.

I'm wondering if the Ferraris will have poor starting performance. In previous races both Ferraris have been slow to get away from the grid.

Sepecat

07-03-2005, 06:41 AM

Spoiler:
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ANd Alonso WINS

KiMi 2nd

Schumi 3rd
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chris

07-03-2005, 06:45 AM

Exactly. Another farce! F1 is stupid, silly, hopeless, whatever else you can think of.. ;)

Shouldn't we be considering penalties or something for the winning team to slow them down? ;)

Sepecat

07-03-2005, 06:52 AM

LuC!FeR

07-03-2005, 06:54 AM

Sepecat

07-03-2005, 06:56 AM

Ash, Its only the afternoon.... Not that great to be drinking now... :beer: :beer: :beer:

LuC!FeR

07-03-2005, 06:57 AM

3pm here... beer is a great option :)

Sepecat

07-03-2005, 07:02 AM

3pm here... beer is a great option :)

So what you drinking? Foster's?

LuC!FeR

07-03-2005, 07:05 AM

No, would never touch such rubbish! Stella artois for me :)

Sepecat

07-03-2005, 07:08 AM

I wish I can join you ash, but its just 10am here... :rolleyes: ^_^

LuC!FeR

07-03-2005, 07:10 AM

Well, come share a beer with me anyway. It's good at any time of day... as long as you don't have to work or drive anywhere lol :)

Sepecat

07-03-2005, 07:18 AM

Well, come share a beer with me anyway. It's good at any time of day... as long as you don't have to work or drive anywhere lol :)

I need to stock up... :'( And I'm to lazy to get up... :p

:idea: How about I have a e-beer with you... :D

LuC!FeR

07-03-2005, 07:32 AM

E-beer is fine. My cracks open a couple of Virtual Beers and passes one to George ;)

chris

07-03-2005, 07:41 AM

It is just SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO nice to see Ferrari TOTALLY stomped all over by Renault, although it is not the team I support. Alas, Williams got toally destroyed again.. but hey, thats motor racing :) But it was wonderfull to see Micheal Scumacher's predection of "We are looking strong" to be proved absolutely wrong. And yes Chris, you are always right ofcourse... it is an absolute farce. Let me go and enjoy the result with a few cold ones :)

I was joking around about the farce bit. ;)

I'm no Renault fan I admit. I hate the way they fire their drivers. That was really rough what they did to Trulli. Sad to see what has happened to Williams. :( Disaster, and bad for Australian F1 fans, if any of them still support Webber..

Bit of a hot ride for Webber too I hear.. Something like what happened a while back at Jaguar.

chris

07-03-2005, 07:43 AM

I didn't watch, as I was into the race today... Maybe its because its so damn early here, and I went out from 10 last night to 3 in the morning, and hasn't slept yet... :eek:

And the feed (Star Sports) wasn't that good...

Watching the Highlights, Holy Shit, What a Start..... :HB:

What happened on the start, I missed that bit. Seemed that nobody hit anyone, because there was not pit-stops. :confused:

Wazza

07-03-2005, 07:50 AM

Good race.

I watched it, then went to bed, and haven't been able to sleep for last 45min, so I've come online, in the hope I'll get tired! :rolleyes:

I don't like Renault either, but like the driver, Alonso.

My favourite is still Kimi/McLaren, and with his result today, from 13th, clearly shows, he has what it takes. Just needs to stay up there. Silverstone, should give McLaren an edge.

Sepecat

07-03-2005, 07:55 AM

What happened on the start, I missed that bit. Seemed that nobody hit anyone, because there was not pit-stops. :confused:

I was just amazed by the start Alonso had.. WOW... :eek:

Sepecat

07-03-2005, 07:57 AM

E-beer is fine. My cracks open a couple of Virtual Beers and passes one to George ;)

Thanks Ash, btw i'm chilling the e-beer... ^_^

LuC!FeR

07-03-2005, 08:35 AM

Chris I know you were kidding mate... I was just yanking yer chain :). Ferrari did look pretty strong in qualifying, I must admit, I was FULLY expecting them to be a lot closer than they actually were... I was ready for Schumi to be on the top of the podium, but I am glad it didn't happen that way, but I was destroyed about Willams performce today. I was hoping it was just teething trouble with the new Aero package, but it looks like that underlying "BMW" issue has pretty much screwed em.

Still, I am hopefull that ONE of the williams drivers will get on the top step at some point this season :)... But yeah, Webbers "Warm arse" problem, he had that very same problem at Jaguar IIRC... but Heidfeld pitting 6 times, man, that wast just bizarre! I wonder what the hell was up with his car?

I wonder what would have happened if Kimi didn't have that 10 place penalty... Still, bloody good race :)

07-03-2005, 08:56 PM

I was hoping Kimi would win myself, they have some very good car speed. I find F1 not very exciting at all, I watched the race and really, only thing that impresses me is how fluid the car movements are, nothing else.

chris

07-03-2005, 09:15 PM

Yeah, it wasn't really an interesting race. The field got spread out and apart from a couple of close calls on the pit lane exit, and Sato's "moment" that was pretty much it.

Martin Brundle had a good point in the commentary about the aerodynamics and the removal of the traditional undertrays.

Also, notice the podium presentation? Seems that Kimi is German, and Michael Schumacher is from Finland.. ;) When the mistake was noticed, the flags disappeared mighty quickly. ;) I've never seen flags drop so fast.

Have to wonder if Webber may have been better off to remain at Jaguar/Red Bull Racing than to go with Williams. His best hope is to go off to Sauber (aka the BMW works team).

Boring as the race might have been, the cars are still amazing to watch.

07-03-2005, 09:47 PM

I was more talking about F1 in general, watching the V8's earlier in the day, there is always contact between the cars, but you get that more with tin tops, Formula Fords and Formula Holdens (or whatever they are now) are far more interesting to watch in open wheelers for me.

Not to mention there is way to much politics behind F1's.

chris

07-03-2005, 09:53 PM

V8's used to be endless politics. Remember the afternoon TV shows where all the drivers would sit around for an hour or more and argue parity adjustments. ;) Like Holdens having unfair advantages over Ford or the reverse. Even the fans would argue about that bitterly.