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Sepecat
10-31-2004, 08:35 AM
The FQ400, and yes that does mean 400bhp (405bhp to be precise), is set to be sold in a limited run of 100 cars priced at £46,999. Until now the FQ series has been just that 'king Quick. This one is Stupidly FQ boasting a 0-60mph time of 3.5 seconds. To put that number into context, it is quicker than any supercar currently on the market and will put the Evo up on the all time list ahead of the Enzo, Zonda and Ferrari F40; all from a 4-cylinder turbocharged 2-litre engine.
http://www.carenthusiast.com/news.html?article=594
http://www.carenthusiast.com/mitsubishi/mitsubishi_evoviii2004_08.jpg

:eek: 405bhp :eek: This is one fast car.... Any idea if this will come to the US?

monaro
10-31-2004, 09:21 AM
where did they get that 0-60mph time? i question the credibility of it

Wazza
10-31-2004, 10:21 AM
So it has 45% more power than a standard 280bhp powerplant. And what are those figures? Just under 5 seconds? I used 5 seconds, and 45% faster would be 3.45sec... too close really. Coz adding power doesn't make a fine ratio of making a car that much faster. Unless a standard 280bhp car, can do it in 4.4sec, then maybe I would beleive 3.5 sec for this 405bhp version!

blackice111288
10-31-2004, 02:08 PM
:shock: :shock: i want one!!

the stock Evo 8 hit 0-60mph in 4.7 seconds, and the 1/4 mile in 13.4sec, and thats with 271 hp. so 3.5 cant be that far off, i dont think its wrong at all.

you have'nt seen a bad lancer till you've see this one:
http://www.norris-designs.co.uk

over 600 hp on 20psi, 0-60 in in less than 3 sec. its in a old Sport Compact Car magazine of mine (SSC is like the Car And Driver of the import world), i dont feel like going to find it right now, i'll do it later and post all the specs.

chris
10-31-2004, 03:43 PM
This car is a giant killer. Not even the new Corvette could beat it around Top Gear's test track.

The Evolution VIII MR FQ-400 also has a top speed of 281km/hr.

Here is the AM&S report about the car:
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/d/70338

0-100km/hr in 3.5 seconds is absolutely correct. It's not a misprint. This is a very fast car. On a twisting road you could keep up with a Pagani Zonda, and maybe even give the Noble M12 driver a run for his money.

Got to love the torque output - 481Nm! From a 2 litre engine. :eek: These Evo's tend to deliver the torque in one great big blast from 2000rpm. The difference here is that it puts all that torque to the ground without wheelspin, so they just catapult forward in such a violent fashion.

Now I'm thinking of the old Evo VI TME (Tommi Makinen Edition), and it had "only" about 373Nm of torque. It also didn't have the trick active centre differential, and the fancy Super-AYC (active yaw control) of these newer models.

FeZ
11-01-2004, 12:34 AM
Wow that is a Japanese car I like :D

VQ
11-01-2004, 12:48 AM
Least it doesn't have the horrible new style front end, but I know that lots of people who have evo's and Subie's when they drag race, they usally have to replace the gearbox and they can't get a gearbox to hold together doing 9's if I remeber right.

And was it the zo6 Corvette Chris? Because that's the supercar Corvette, with the near 500hp plant.

chris
11-01-2004, 01:08 AM
(Hoping I'm not going to start a flame war with my next comment!)

I don't know if even the Z06 would be quick enough to see off this little Lancer around a race track. Even worse if it was wet for that matter.

But even you'd have to admit, this little Lancer is pretty impressive. :) I still has 4 seats, or even a 5th one at a pinch, and yet it can be so quick.

I even like the way it looks actually. It looks purposeful and mean, looking like it is spoiling for a fight. ^_^ Why can't all Mitsubishi cars have this sort of appeal.

To be honest, I can't think of any other Mitsubishi I might want to own, except for maybe the Colt small-car purely for practical reasons (practical, not too expensive, roomy, well-built).

monaro
11-01-2004, 01:19 AM
after much thought i concede the 0-60 time is probably right, i'd just like to see who did it.

chris: the Z06/FQ400 match up is quite a good one, david versus goliath however david isnt quite as small anymore.

chris
11-01-2004, 01:28 AM
The Subaru WRX's sold in other countries are not too slow either, the STi sold elsewhere with the non-detuned 2.0L engine races from 0-100km/hr in just 4.6 seconds.

And the STi 22B limited edition coupé in the old model series would rip from 0-100km/hr in just 4.2 seconds - as quick as a 911 Turbo, and considerably faster through corners. It was a mad, bad machine. Loud, raw, very fast.

But the Lancers now have just stepped the game up a notch against their traditional rival.

Leaves me wondering, what will Subaru's inevitable response be? :)

monaro
11-01-2004, 02:05 AM
hopefully a scary one, and i hope they get rid of that hideously massive scoop, i really dont like it.

VQ
11-01-2004, 07:38 PM
Me too, I hope they get rid of the scoop fullstop and go to a front mount intercooler, becuase that would increase performance for sure.

The American's get a 2.5 litre STi don't they? That's a beast too I beleive.

blackice111288
11-04-2004, 05:41 PM
yup a 300hp beast to be exact. 300 lb/ft of torque also.6speed,3 limited slip diffs(1 in front, in the middle, and in the rear), 0-60 in 4.9sec's, 13.1 sec @ 105mph in the 1/4 mile

BTW:in SCC mag. the lancer evo8 run a 0-60 in 5.3secs. that seem a bit slow for that car, but i dont doubt their drivng skills because their pretty talented.
i'll check Car and Driver later.

KyzrSoze
11-08-2004, 08:59 AM
This car is a giant killer. Not even the new Corvette could beat it around Top Gear's test track...
I don't know if even the Z06 would be quick enough to see off this little Lancer around a race track. Even worse if it was wet for that matter.

I would like to own one of the "stealth sedans". I love the combination of practicality and power, and it certainly does look predatory.

However, I do have doubts as to this cars ability to take a Z06 on a road course. I know that the 271 h.p. model exhibited a bit of peakiness and turbo lag, and I cant imagine that with 405 h.p. those traits have been cured. Hard to drive a hair triggered car like that on a road course. A pro could do it, but it wouldnt be easy or fun. Well maybe it would be fun. :)

chris
11-10-2004, 02:37 AM
They can do wonders with the engines. You've probably not seen what the Evolution VI (6) Tommi Makinen Edition could do.

That was probably one of the most focused of all Evo models. It wasn't the sort of car you'd want to drive every day though, it was too rough, too noisy and too unrefined. Nearly a race-car.

Every air-scoop, vent and wing was there for the purposes of cooling it, or adding downforce. It had the exact same shape as the Group A rally version of the Lancer, and the engine was near identical, just tuned differently.

The Group A version probably had in excess of 600Nm of torque, albeit with only around 300bhp, in accordance with power limitations.

It was actually a very good car, and could beat the newer World Rally Cars, even despite their better 4wd systems.

VQ
11-11-2004, 09:32 PM
you can do wounders with any engine if you make it for racing then tune it down a bit for the road car, look at the Nissan pulsar GTi-R and the Audi Qauttro.

blackice111288
11-13-2004, 03:22 PM
the sr20's were awesome in the Pulsar GTi.

the 4G63t in the lancer has been around forever, and over the years has proven to be a excellent motor. it been in the Evo's since they came out, the FWD Eclipse and AWD GXT's and were good motors then too. the Rally teams have always used this motor in the mitsu racers. they've used it in other variations like 1.5 liter and 1.6 liter versions in the Colt, and with The 4G63t head swap makes for a powerful little sleeper, like 11.6 second colts^_^ seen it.

VQ
11-14-2004, 04:11 AM
GTi pulsar? it's the GTi-R I'm thinking of, with the quad throttle bodies and top mounted intercooler in the pulsar 3 door hatch body. something like 500 made.

FeZ
01-15-2005, 05:43 AM
Just saw the Topgear test of this beast....fantastic -^ -^ -^

A Lambo Murcielago could not shake this car on the testtrack, it must have insane handling when not even JC can bring it into a spin :D

But it also has some problems if you would use it as a daily driver. Seems that it has no power when not in the right rev range all the time. They showed it "accelerating" from 30mph in 6th gear and it would not go until the Turbo kicked in, but who in his right mind would do that ?
They also mention that the service intervals are 4500 mls &( , that it only runs on expensive Shell Optima fuel and that if you trash it real hard (which you need to to get it going) it does 4mpg :eek:

Anyway I would still buy it if money would not matter :love:

chris
01-15-2005, 06:04 AM
4500 mile service intervals aren't that bad I suppose. But the fuel economy is very awful. But no worse than a Hummer H2 getting 1mpg when being driven quickly. (why would you ever do that?)

FeZ: So is this one a proper successor to the Evolution VI Tommi Makinen Edition. IMO, that was the previous best Evo. It was a raw, loud, menacing beast of a machine, but it was fantastic to drive, and had such explosive torque delivery. Anything from 2000rpm and it would explode forward. :eek:

Horrible engine sound though. A very loud metallic thrash. It just blasts your ears with great loads of decibels. The noise is enough to make you freak out when you hear it for the first time. And you could never use it as a daily driver. Too rough and uncomfortable.

It did have climate control IIRC, but that is probably only for convenience when it is being raced in poor weather conditions (extreme cold, or extreme heat)

FeZ
01-15-2005, 10:32 AM
No idea but this car must have some strange torque curve. I was looking for details but could not find anything other than somebody mentioning the torque curve going "vertical" somewhere between 4000 -5000 :eek:

The conclusion at the end of the review was that you should go for one of the standard Evos that delivers 95% of the performance/fun for half the price :D

VQ
01-15-2005, 06:19 PM
Bah, gimmie a diesel AWD Golf or Bora racer any day to compete with this! :p But i just like having full power at 2 grand and being able to not push past 7l/100km when giving the motor stick.

chris
01-15-2005, 07:23 PM
FeZ: Yeah, that sounds about right for that car. Heavily tuned up and the torque curve goes wild, like an old Biturbo Maserati.

This was previously the best of the lot:

http://members.surfeu.fi/rfp/pics/2000/finland/sds_tmb.jpg
http://www.fantasycars.com/sedans/japan/mit_evotm4.jpg
http://www.fantasycars.com/sedans/japan/mit_evotm2.jpg

That was a superb machine. I show both the race and road versions, because they were so closely related.

VQ
01-16-2005, 04:07 AM
Other then the fact race versions have illegal exausts for the street and are a lot louder from experience, but other then that, yeah they are pretty similar.

Sepecat
01-19-2005, 10:00 AM
That was a pretty good Top Gear episode.... Pretty old though.. :D But the Car has some Great Drift… Hehe