Prepare me for On line racing

[SuperDave9x19]

Howdy,

Gonna prep to start on line. A little Background. Been playing this game SP on and off since it dropped to $20 (early 2001?) and love it. I don't do Facvtory driver as I just get stuck at one point and figure screw it.

I have completed Evolution with essentially unlimited cash and a nice set of cars. I have nothing but "came with game" cars, ie. no downloads.

I like my cars tail happy, so I prefer '95 993s to '00 996s, but I am just starting to really lighten up grip characteristics on 996s to make them more "loose" in the tail and man are they fat.

For my Key Class 1 cars cars, I keep 3 of each car in Red (fast, tail slippery, HighSpeedGearbox), Yellow (slightly tail slippery low speed gearbox) and green (emphasize grip, minimum fishtail, lowspeed gearbox)... This is so I don't have to setup cars for tracks.

I generally run Red on AutoBahn, Zone and Normandie.

I run Green on Alps and occasionally Schwarzwald.

Anyway, as a result of this and my stockpiling of Moby Dicks for equity, I do not have EVERY car model like I used to.

I hate race class cars and never drive them. Is that bad?

Are there any good explanations of downforce, toe-in and all that? My trial and error has yielded better cars, but I don't feel there is a logic to downforce like to the shocks adjustments.

Any comments?

[Cheyenne]

Point by point... (it's the only way to be sure)

Glad you love the game. I do to, so do many others. Sorry about Factory Driver mode, I find that a blast, but on my latest :PC: computer it dumps to desktop on every single "deliver" mission :(

Okay, not bad on cars, but you should get the "official download" cars. There are various sources for these, some official EA sites (though they seem down at the moment &( ) You can try the Team Xtreme Racing Website (http://www.team-xr.com), go to "Downloads" and then select the various cars listed there. I suggest you do this even if you never want to drive them as if you enter a pit where someone else is using one, you won't be able to "ready" for the race, and thus will either have to beg others to change their cars or go hunting up a pit where no one is using the download cars.

Tailhappy, yes, fun to drive, but you lose time that way as PU sort of treats cars like they have an active stability/traction control system, that is you cannot really accelerate while in an oversteer condition (unless in a very, very tight turn, but no real powerslides :confused: ) You will find most online racers like to have the cars basically neutral with just the slightest oversteering tendencies.

Many online racers have multiples of certain cars. I have two 78 930s, three 95 Twin Turbos, two 00 Twin Turbos and four 98 GT1s, all with varying setups for specific tracks.

You don't need "every" model there is in the game. You will quicly learn what most drive online. of the class 3 356s, you only really need the super speedster and the 53 coupe. Out of the Class 2 356s, you only really need the super 90 coupe, etc. Most people use only the cars that can achieve the fastest records/times in their class (I say they miss out on a lot of fun though!) Personally, I feel I have a very comprehensive garage but only have 50 or so cars (my understanding is you are allowed 84 cars total) You can get any idea of what cars are "THE" cars to have by looking at the records at either EA Online Racing Track Records for NFS-Porsche (http://www.earacing.com/PU_Tracks.phtml) or the generally preferred site is Deadline Racers EA Online Statistics for NFS-Porsche (English) (http://www.deadlineracers.net/php/nfs5/eastats.php?showpage=eastats_eng) and seeing what cars are used in the various classifications on the tracks.

Hating race classes... bad? Well, it's up to you, but some of the most enjoyable cars are the race classes. Personally I love the spyder and the GT1, I'm still rather bad with the Moby, but I am enjoying the challenge of getting better at driving it. You will find that the GT1 is probably the 2nd most popular car used (the 95 Twin Turbo being easily the 1st). So getting to "love" driving the GT1 may be a big challenge (it's tremendous fun though!).

Downforce doesn't make any true-world sense in the game. Most people online (the FAST ones included) mostly use significant downforce in the rear of the car and very little in the front. This does actually provide a well balanced characteristic (unlike doing this in the real world). As far as all those sliders, what most drivers use is something approximating this..

Shock Height 0% (full left)
Shock Stiffness 100% (full right)
Shock Travel 100% (full right)
Toe In 100% (full right)
Brake Balance 75-85% (3/4ths+ right)

A good downforce on the GT1/95Twin Turbo/00Twin Turbo might be 70/10 - 90/0 r/f
with tire pressures of 45/45 - 42/45 r/f

Just suggestions. These settins approximate what many successful racers use online. A notable exception, almost all racers use the 356 class cars with 0/0 downforce or maybe just a little on the rear like 5/0 - 15/0.

Hope you come to love the online racing as much as many of us have! :Peace:

[MATT]

40/45 tire pressure is what I use on my '95 Turbo :) I use 41/45 on my GT1. '95 Turbo seems to take well to 90/2 downforce setting (Terry ([SK]HiLL) told me this one... works great). My GT1 is normally set at 70/1 downforce, but 46/0 works very nicely on some tracks as well. My cars are always loose no matter what. For me, loose and grip go hand in hand. Just gotta learn the techniques to keep the tail in line better (luckily, for Porsches, that usually only requires to keep your foot planted on the throttle. But getting off momentarily at the apex can really help to get around the corner, of course. But you'll want to get back on the power pretty quickly too).

[prize]

the car onling is more lighter than offline.
like some place you
must empty the power or begin to break online, but you can empty it or break later offline. (late break?)
that 's a difference..


8)~
hope you can know what i am saying.:)

[(AR)Göran]

Hi SuperDave and welcome to the world of online racing. As u will notice, the PU community is one of the best and its very hard to stop playing the game - a lot of great guys and gals out there :) And btw, listen to Cheyennes advice, she is one of the best drivers around.
/Göran8)~

[DC_Geezr]

Hey SuperDave! I'm glad you got that updater thingy sorted out,and as to set ups I couldn't add much to what Chey has already mentioned,so get in there and get some!:HB:

DC_Geezr/ Ric ;)

[D_Man]

Hi and welcome -^

You will find beating Chey a little harder than kicking Dylan's butt and most good pits run without collision and damage on.

Chey has given a lot of useful information in her post above so read it carefully and then read it again.

A point about online ettiquette: Be civil in the pits and don't tell the pit boss how to run their pit. If they ask you to change your car, do it or leave the pit to find one that is running the car you want.

You may have favourite cars now and think that they are all you want. I strongly recommend having a full garage as you will find that many pits race a variety of cars from the Super Speedster to the 87 944 and the Spyder etc. You will soon come to appreciate racing the different cars on all tracks.

Look for good pits and avoid ones where they are chaotic and abusive as they spoil the online experience. The best tip is to look for pits hosted by team guys like the DC, XR, SK and DR teams. They will run fair, well-run pits.

Good luck

Dave

[SuperDave9x19]

MY LORD!!!

I just got to really reading this and examinning car tuning from major team sites. Y'all take that tuning to the extreme!!!

The extreme tunes (far left/right for shock travel, height, etc) make for a fast and overly slipperry car, to my mind. It was CRAZY. But I like loose tails. These mods, of course, made the 996s into the lippery fun babies I want them to be.

On the flip side, on first try with the new settings I beat 2 of my records (by a good 10 seconds, and WITH accidents on each track) while cruising thru Modern Rally of Europe... So clearly once I "relearn" my cars I will really stomp on my old mediocre records on my PC.

Last nite I upgraded ALL of my cars to the limit, but took a "median" between defaults and recommended settings for "loose" cars.

I have noted people saying NOT to upgrade engines, specifically mentionning 911s, 914s and 944. I have found that is the case, but I like my 356 engine upgrades a lot... Any comments?

[MATT]

You can upgrade your engine, sure... just don't buy parts that actually say "Engine upgrade" and implies an increase in the engine's displacement... those only slow you down and make handling worse by adding weight. But things like higher performance exhaust and carbeurators/fuel injectors, turbos.. etc.. all that is good stuff you absolutely MUST get.

[SuperDave9x19]

I did, specifically mean "Engine Upgrades" and still find the 356 S-90 upgrades worthy of note, but 2.4 to 2.7S 911 upgrades blow, as do all 914s and 944s in my opinion.

Anyway. Anudder Q...

I will have all the DL cars burned to CD today. How do I:

1. Install them so NFS utilizeds or recognizes them.

2. Get them into my Evolution Garage.

Thanx in advance.

[Cheyenne]

Hi, SuperDave! :wave:

You are right about the engine upgrades, also do not install the upgrade on the 1975 930, it degrades performance also. :eek:

You should be able to install the download cars by simply putting the file into a directory (any that you fancy) and running it. I believe it checks the registry to see where NFS-Porsche is installed and then does it's duty from there.

You can get these cars into your "Evolution" garage by using the "Buy All Cars" hack, but note that you cannot use these cars (the downloaded cars that have to be "hacked" into your Evo Garage) in "Evolution" mode nor can you use them online in the "Stats" servers &( (only the no-stat server will permit them to be used). You can freely use the download cars online from your list of "stock" cars (non-owned, located after the last car in your "Evo" garage).

Good luck with it. Have you been online yet? :Peace:

[SuperDave9x19]

done one test race over lunch and it was cool.

Since I do NOT intend to use any hacks, I guess I cannot modify the cars.

Sounds to me that I won't end up using them as anyone willing to "hack" can own and modify the cars, and any guy like me that goes "unhacked" with stock unmodified cars will get stomped by the modified cars driven by "hackers".

O well, guess i just limit myself to other races if I understanbd you right.

[(AR)Göran]

Since I do NOT intend to use any hacks, I guess I cannot modify the cars. No u cant, if u are intending them for onlineracing, offline theres no problem, drive what u want there, but online hacked cars are cheating and thats of course not that good.
Sounds to me that I won't end up using them as anyone willing to "hack" can own and modify the cars, and any guy like me that goes "unhacked" with stock unmodified cars will get stomped by the modified cars driven by "hackers". Oh no, dont limit urself to that. the d/l cars are really funny to drive, mostly because a lot of ppl finds them "undrivable".
Im not sure if i get u right here, but i assume u are talking about the d/l cars when u say "by the modified cars driven by "hackers" 'cause modified cars otherwise means that they are upgraded legally in evo mode, hackers drive hacked cars, cars that are changed in a nonmentioned way. There are a good tool to download that is really good if u wanna see who's cheating or not, be careful how u use it tho, it isnt 100% foolproof, Its done by a guy named "Strobe" and u find it at his webpage:
http://home.swbell.net/drlumen/dh/
Have fun and drive like a maniac hehe:HB: :HB:
/Göran8)~

[SuperDave9x19]

I was too broad in the term "hack".

Since I do not intend to use a "buy all cars" hack, then if I read this correctly, the DL cars will not be in my Evolution Garage.

I like the cars I have earned over the last year and don't want that hard work eliminated when some hack program puts one of every car in my garage, replacing some sentimental favorites (Ahh, the 62 Carrerra 356B 2000)

If not in the Evolution Garage, I cannot modify them.

Others, who use the "buy all cars" hack, get the cars in the Evo Garage. Since they have the cars in the Garage, HEY can modify them.

While I cannot.

Or are those cars used "stock only, no tweaks" so it is irrelevant whether they are in my garage.

That is assumming I read Cheyenne's explanation correctly. She wrote it clearly enough, I thought

[(AR)Göran]

"All cars hack" is functioning so that u are able to buy all cars, not that u have them automatically in ur garage. That means that all of ur original bought cars are still there. And u can if u want, buy the d/l cars also on the used cars market. (if u have d/l-ed them ofcourse)If u do so u can tune them. But then u cant use that particular car that u have tuned online, 'cept for on no stats server. If u are online and wanna drive the d/l cars u can still do so by doing as Cheyenne says. Choose car list, scroll down and go to the stock car part of the list and there u will find ur d/l cars aswell among the other stockcars. No problem running them online 'cause they aren't hacked.
So the conclusion is, d/l the "All cars hack" if u wanna drive a tuned 959 offline or if u have missed some cars from the earlier years, if not, u wont need it.
/Göran8)~

[Cheyenne]

Hi, SuperDave & Goran!

Ah, I was really clear (in my head) what I was trying to get at, but I see there was some confusion, Goran mostly cleared it up, but I'll go through it from top to bottom just in case...

The "Buy all cars" hack is a replacement file called "nfs5.car". it simply puts all the cars in your purchase list, the downloaded cars, even the police cars from the game (you can even tune the police cars! }) ) If you do purchase any of the not-normally-available cars (downloads, police cars...) you can tune them, paint them, give them the striping, all of that. You cannt drive them online in the servers which record "stats", on the no stat servers or "Single Player" (not Evolution) offline play modes.

Regardless of whether or not you download install and use the "Buy all cars" hack, if you have installed the " official download" cars, they will show up in your stock cars list (the list following your cars earned through Evolution play) and you can race those online, untuned, to your hearts content (I know I do, some of the most interesting cars in the game are those download cars! The 959 alone is like a rocketsled that has jumped the tracks and is skidding across the countryside! &( ).

Another problem with the "Buy all cars" hack is that if you have it installed and you go online, the "Factory Driver" cars will appear in your stock cars list. This is BAD. It's considered cheating to run these in a "stock car" pit because they are in a state of partial "tune" and much faster than "stock" cars. So the "buy all cars hack is useful for filling out your "garage". But it's sort of dangerous and useless otherwise.

A much more useful and non-dangerous file is the "Evolution Editor" which allows you to add money to your account and also "refresh" (cycle different cars to the list) the "used cars" list, but the best feature is with a simple mouse click it can totaly flesh out the "new cars" list with all the models that are normally availabe through the Evolution mode of play. You may not know, but some cars NEVER show up on the used car list, so if you missed them in Evolution, this is the ONLY way to get them. The Evolution editor doesn't do anything bad or nefarious that gives you an unfair advantage in online play (or offline for that matter, but who cares what you do in your own home?)

So, "Buy all cars" hack = BAD!
"Evolution Editor" = Gooooood! :love:

Hmmm, have I confused things even more? &(

[D_Man]

Driving the download cars online is fun but challenging :)

They aren't part of the "Evolution garage" selection and can only be accessed in the factory cars, but it makes for quite even racing as it eliminates the advantages from tuning.

Try it and I'm sure you will enjoy it.

Dave

[(AR)Göran]

nope u haven't Cheyenne, i forgot about the evoeditor:") shame on me, u are absolutely right. If u need a car that hasn't showed up in the used car list, evoeditor is much better :o
/Göran:Peace:

[Cheyenne]

Hi, Goran!

You're not the only one, I forgot it earlier too! Blondes may have more fun ( 0=) ), but we forget about the Evo Editor all the time! &(

[SuperDave9x19]

played a few hours WED night.

Even won a few. Had a jolly good time.

I play as SuperDad.

I like the car horn on line much more than in Evo. No sense beepin an AI bot.

A small question:
If I finish first (and get the "you've placed first" AND the "You've won the race" message) and guy I was racing (who was previously only -300 to -500) doesn't place second... I clearly wait for all messages... And then does it 3 more times...

Is that guy just a BUM or is my connection whacked out?

It didnt happen with others.

Upon race finish, what is ideal way to get back to the pit assuming minimal waiting but all data makes it to server?

[Cheyenne]

Hi, Dadster/SuperDave/SuperDad! :wave:

Hmm, I'm not entirely sure what you're asking. Are you asking an "etiquette" question, or a technical question?

First, congratulations on making it online! I saw you and raced with you a few. Very fun! So glad you are with us. :beer:

Second, congratulations on winning some races. It's always a nice feeling! :love:

Now, by this...who was previously only -300 to -500 ... doesn't place second ... I clearly wait for all messages ... And then does it 3 more times ... Is that guy just a BUM or is my connection whacked out?do you mean to say he was 3 to 5 seconds behind you, and never finished the race? By "messages" do you mean receiving his final elapsed time racing?

If your racing partner is constantly DNFing (english version for Did Not Finish), well, they may just be impatient or concerned about taking lots of time to finish the race (but if you meant 3 to 5 seconds behind you, it's kind of ridiculous to DNF) or they could be a bum. I think chronic DNFing is a bit rude (we did have this discussion in the main forum recently, search for DNFing and you'll probably find the varying views on the subject). After all, we are all racing "together".

Another thing, I did notice your connection is indeed "whacked out". Nothing to really worry about, you can still race online, but it does make your car's position get very inacrruately updated.

If you mean an etiquette question, well the opinion on that varies. I usually like to wait until all the racers have finished before "ESCaping" out to the "pit room". It's not like we're going to race again before the last racer gets back anyway. You can also use your mosue to bring up the "ghost" menu like in offline play for replays, and use the "<" ">" buttons to view the cars. I usually watch the cars finishing the race "if" I place well enough to have the time &( to do so. It's just more fun and adds some variety. Some players ESC out right away and go back to the pit room and chat or just sit and do things in the real world. Kind of a good general rule is don't let things like people DNFing or ESCing out early bother you. It is an online activity and real life often intrudes and makes demands of us.

I sure hope I addressed your question properly. I also hope to see you racing online again soon and I hope you thoroughly enjoyed the experience! :love:

[SuperDave9x19]

ya coverred it.
Thanx.

Amazing how my connection is slow, but consistent in UT.

In this game it's pure ghosting for at least 20% of time.

For instance, in Auvergne Forward, (as in all races in general terms) I always start off in the lead. Likely connection based "lead", but whatever. I start to hear opponnents revving about 4 seconds before the alleyway, then I see the funky ghost images of poorly "predicted paths" of my opponents. Then the game ghosts for 10-15 seconds and then all seems well for remainder of race.

Is that "me" or is that typical startup procedure.

Since collision off, I suppose it makes no difference if I don't know where you "really" are but it is aggravating to be deceived into thinking you are winning then finding you are -800.

[D_Man]

Warping is a problem on the flakey EA servers when you have a poor connection. You can usually spot the guys who will warp by high pings and large fluctuations in ping while waiting for the race to start. During the race you will see a light beside each racer's name. Green means good connection, yellow means not very good and red means bad and possibly warping.

I hope that explains it a bit.

Dave

[Wazza]

well i have had enough of EA servers at moment.. it really HATES my connection all of a sudden.. only noticed it last week.. have hardly raced online last few days.. last time. Bob aka B10 told me to get away.. haha coz my connection was screwing up every race....

today, no races would load for me.. i tried one with Chey too. i was gonna defend my 60 356 Pyr bkw WR, but it booted me.. well everyone came up with 'racing' and i had ready, and i had the game controls like eject, but i was only 6th in pit i think....

and other times all i saw was a black screen.. nothing would load.. when i do Escape.. it loads back to pit. but my car has disappeared, ping has frozen.. and a few sec later "connection lost"

i guess for now im only on for offline races sadly...
=((

[DC_Deuxme]

Welcome SuperDave/SuperDad.

I can't add anything to what's already been said, except......

While in a race (or immediately after the race) you can move your "dashboard" around. By this, I mean your tach, speedometer, map, gear indicator, etc. "Grab" it with your mouse and drag it into a new position.

Finding a good position for your instruments can help with getting updated info / timing shifts while keeping a better focus on the road ahead.

GL

Deuxme

[Cheyenne]

Wow, Deuxme, thanks for that! :")

Sometimes there's so much you CAN do that keeping track of it all is very difficult. Thanks for reminding us of a very important fundamental in setting up the game as we like!
:jump:

and, Wazza...

I'm so sorry. I know you're having a very difficult time right now with NFS, especially online. Keep trying and I'm certain you will find your way again. :kiss:

[SuperDave9x19]

wow. movable HUD on a 2000 racing game.

SWEET. Been playing around a year and never knew it. Was that in the On-CD NFS:PU Manual? I thought I was thorough reader.

I am going to put the roadmap (default lower left) lower center for visibility.

I just realized I sold all my 356 class hardtops to make some room for GT3/928/959. Is there a noticeable diff in overall car ability going from HardTop to RagTop. I know people have said "yess, hardtop has beter handling cause it is a whole rigid frame..." a bizillion times on line and in FAQs, but what is the practical difference in a race?

Would an GOOD racer even FEEL the diff? cause this particular AVERAGE racer doesn't feel a difference

[Cheyenne]

Hi, SuperDad! :wave:

About the 356s, yes, the Coupes are much better than the cabrios. Note, however, that the "speedster" is much better than them all. The speedster lacks the top mechanism of the Cabrios and lacks all glass but the most rudamentary windscreen, and is thus severall 100 pounds lighter. A major advantage in that class of car. When it comes to the coupes over the cabriolets the cabrios are the same car but with extra heavy duty (and just plain "heavy") bracing to stiffen up the body and prevent it from twisting over bumps. Still, the chassis is less rigid than the coupes and it's much heavier. I can tell the difference in driving them in NFS porsche, to be honest with you.

If you really need some room, in the "Class 3" "Classic Era" cars you only really really need two, the 53 356 A 1500 Super Coupe (for tracks where the highest top speed is important) and the 56 356 A Super Speedster. All the others are just eye candy. In the "Class 2" "Classic Era" you only need 356 B 1600 Super 90 Coupe. In "Class 1" "Classic Era" you only need three cars, the 62 36 B 2000 GS Carrera 2, the 65 911 Coupe and the 67 911 S Coupe. I'm not saying you can't have any of the other cars, but if you need to make room, these are the essentials. Very few people ever run any of the other cars in this era.

Luck to you always, SuperDad!

[jtace]

I've moved this to the racing tips forum now that it's pretty much played out. :)

[BartSmit]

Hi guys,
Thanks to your posts in this thread i now know a lot more of getting on line with PU. I'm in a simular position as SuperDave was in april of this year. I've got this fascinating game for about a year now, but it took me a lot of time to get over the so called 'normandy bug' (using a GeForce2mx the game locks up on specific places). Now yesterday i made an first unforgettabele entrance on line. I didnot know what to do so i joined a randomly chosen pit and found myself on the starting grid of Monaco 5 backwards, a track i never drove before, driving a 914 in a field of tuned 944s's. Afterwards the funniest reaction appearing in the chatbox was that if this guy would go any faster they would call the police.....So here is my question. Before entering a race i like to do some off line practise with the car and on the track i will be racing on line. Allthough i completed evolution mode, i am not familiar with all the cars and tracks, well at least not referring to the stats on deadlineracers . Its impossible for me to set a competitive time finding myself on a nonfamiliar track and car. Now is there some kind of announcement for pit, date, time, track and car?

[Cheyenne]

Hi, Bart! Glad you're "digging" online. Hmm, no, there really aren't a lot of announcements. Online "life" is sort of constrained by "realworld" intrusions. Usuually players come online and mostly hunt for a pit that suits their current mood. Some are very "directed" about it though, and are pursuing certain records on tracks with certain cars. Many pits though are very "spur-of-the-moment" or democratic and car/track selection is up to vote or sometimes the host will go down the list of players, 1, 2, 3, etc) and ask for combos or just what track to race. Some pits are "Any Car". There is very seldom anything "preplanned". Just dive in and race, and you'll learn the tracks and car combos.

Must-have cars are, 53, 356A 1500 Super Cab/Coupe, 56 356A 1600 Super Speedster, 60 356B Super 90 Coupe/Roadster, Cabriolet/Hardtop (all or take your pick), 67 911 S Coupe, 56 550A Spyder, 87 944 S Coupe (do NOT use 3.0L Upgrade Engine!), 73 911 RS 2.7 Coupe, 88 944 Turbo, 78 930 Turbo, 78 935 Moby, 90 C2 Coupe, 98 C2 3.4 Coupe, 99 C4 Coupe, 95 3.6 Twin Turbo, 98 GT1 Race Version, GT2, GT3, 959. Those are used very frequently online as they are the cars of "record" - er, you can get the best times per track with those cars or combinations of those cars due to their being fastest in class under certain conditions.

Other fun cars to have are 62 GS2000 Carrera, 65 911 Coupe, 73 914 2.0, 97 Boxter, 00 Boxter S, 91 911 Turbo 3.3 (blazingly fast!) 93 911 Turbo 3.6, 95 C4 Cabriolet (it's just gorgeous!), 96 C4 Coupe, 97 CS Coupe, 00 911 Twin Turbo. These cars aren't the fastest in their respective classes (generally, if you specialize, though, you could surprise people! :D ), but they have unique handling and people do sometimes use them online. Most of the other cars are generally a bit "obscure", but feel free to try them all out. It's a great part of the fun of the game. Woe to those who only drive the 95 Twin Turbo and the GT1 because they're the fastest. They miss out on 99% of the fun.

[[SK]Tammy]

Hi Chey

Looking around amongst the thousands of posts, I found your last one on this thread to be very interesting.

Other fun cars to have are 62 GS2000 Carrera, 65 911 Coupe, 73 914 2.0, 97 Boxter, 00 Boxter S, 91 911 Turbo 3.3 (blazingly fast!) 93 911 Turbo 3.6, 95 C4 Cabriolet (it's just gorgeous!), 96 C4 Coupe, 97 CS Coupe, 00 911 Twin Turbo. These cars aren't the fastest in their respective classes (generally, if you specialize, though, you could surprise people! ), but they have unique handling and people do sometimes use them online. Most of the other cars are generally a bit "obscure", but feel free to try them all out. It's a great part of the fun of the game. Woe to those who only drive the 95 Twin Turbo and the GT1 because they're the fastest. They miss out on 99% of the fun.

What is the future of PU? I know that in good old game land a game like PU is old hat, and as such will get little if any investment. As you know I am new to the online scene and have started the slow process of learning tracks, racing lines, railing, bouncing etc, and I plan to be around for a long long time to come.:eek:

I would like to see individual records for ALL cars, not just for classes or sections of cars. I would also like to see new cars, like the production GT2 and the new Carerra GT. The ability to race the d/l cars in evolution and the ability to mod them would be nice, along with some new tracks and circuits.

With technology as it is today, I am frustrated and astonished at the lack of detail in some areas compared to the excellent graphics and games play in others.

This game and it's community could progress much further than it is now, if only it was given the chance.

Any chance that some of you programmers could get hold of the source code?

I also find it very boring that just about every pit online contains the 95 turbo or the GT1. If you create your own pit like I do with my 356's, and call it 356 only, people still come in and demand to race with a turbo or GT1!:mad:

Come on guys, have a heart and play with something different for a change!:beer:

The 356's are a great way to start off online racing - good to learn the racing lines and get some records on the board. (like I have, and I have only been racing on a few tracks!) I'm not ready for the fast cars yet - too difficult to handle at the moment!

Anyway, i'll stop ranting now!

A quick point on connection as I see Wazza has been having trouble.

All through the summer there have been connection and routing problems between Europe and North America. These problems have come to a head the last few weeks, with many of the top ISP's showing as having the same problems.

I too have been missing the last few days as I can't get on the servers, let alone try and get in a race!

So I don't think it's EA's fault, but there again I don't know what problems you locals are experiencing!

Tammy:love:

[BartSmit]

Originally posted by TammyUK

With technology as it is today, I am frustrated and astonished at the lack of detail in some areas compared to the excellent graphics and games play in others.



Hi Tammy,
You don't play Pong anymore I guess^_^ ...My opinion is that PU for a 2000 game is an excellent piece of work. The atmosphere and the lighting, for example the lensflare on Normandie is breathtaking. Of course, Ď am playing the game with a GeForce2mx, so I'm not too spoiled, but I still think graphics are acceptable even to 2002 standards. And, afterall, gameplay is what matters, doesn"t it? Concerning the future there is not much to expect from EA. I even understood they announced to close their servers a while ago, but thanks to protests of the PU community, they didn't.
I like your idea of classic pits. Thanks to a major lack of time I'm not able do a lot of training on any circuit, with any car. So I have to specialise and the 356 carrera and 911 carrera are the ones for me. So if you continue to run your 356 pit I am glad to join you someday.

[BartSmit]

Originally posted by Cheyenne
Must-have cars are, 53, 356A 1500 Super Cab/Coupe, 56 356A 1600 Super Speedster, 60 356B Super 90 Coupe/Roadster, Cabriolet/Hardtop (all or take your
Hey Cheyenne,
You know, somewhere I missed the speedster:'( . I did not see this car showing up in the used car sales until now. Is this one of the cars that never shows up? Are there anymore as you know?

[[SK]Tammy]

Originally posted by BartSmit


You don't play Pong anymore I guess^_^ ...My opinion is that PU for a 2000 game is an excellent piece of work. The atmosphere and the lighting, for example the lensflare on Normandie is breathtaking. Of course, Ď am playing the game with a GeForce2mx, so I'm not too spoiled, but I still think graphics are acceptable even to 2002 standards. And, afterall, gameplay is what matters, doesn"t it?

Hi Bart

I think you read my point a little wrong! I am agreeing with you that the graphics are superb and the gameplay is excellent. You are also right in that it is the gameplay that is important. I just think there are some details that could have been improved before release.

I heard someone saying that the game was rushed to be released towards the end of its development. I also think the involvement of Porsche themselves played a big part in the quality of the graphics.

I do truly believe that this game will never be beaten and that is why I am quite passionate about its continuous existence. If the EA servers were ever turned off then I would be willing to provide servers in order to continue online play.

Back to the issue of classic cars, I decided to start on the slower cars, learn the tracks and the racing lines before moving up to the faster cars. I don't see the point of racing cars that you can't control properly, so I will race the faster cars in the future.

I look forward to racing you in the classic pits!

Tammy:love: