nice Nismo skyline on ebay

[blackice111288]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6392&item=2460278678

only if i had $77,000.

[Commander]

$77,000 would come in handy for a lot of things right about now! ;)

[blackice111288]

lol!!!!:D ^_^ ;)

[VQ]

To my understanding u could buy a Porsche 911 turbo for that much and u wou;dn't have a car that looks like a car that has relations with a shopping trolley car in japan (I know the commodore is too but same engine tho) and the insurance woudl pay for the Porshce more thent he Skyline cos itz been nhismo tuned whcih means nothing to the insurance companys so u woudl lose ur money too when it gets stolen (dont'say it wouldn't cos they do)

[Mickcals]

Ok .......

u wou;dn't have a car that looks like a car that has relations with a shopping trolley car in japan (I know the commodore is too but same engine tho)

So if a car doesnt look like a car then what does it look like???

And from my understanding Shopping trolleys arent cars, and are you saying that the Commodore looks like a trolley or share the same engine as a trolley (but as far as i know, trolleys dont have engines!!!!)

And why are you giving these people the insurance details from Australia, when they live in Canada or USA respectively

[VQ]

I'm not saying about insurance in Australa Mickcals, I'm talking about in America cos I did never say where and Insurance companys are generally the same all round the world.

I'm saying shopping trolley cars like they are used to go to the shoping centre and they are used to carry kids around and stuff, thatz wat I mean.

[chris]

This Nismo tuned Skyline is no different to a HSV tuned version of a Holden, except that Nismo is the factory high-performance arm of Nissan, while HSV is a third-party organisation.

Nice car too, this Nissan. Not riced to hell and back like some others.

And I think a GT-R might indeed be better than the 911 Turbo in some conditions (away from an autobahn). It might not have the outright brutal torque of the 911 Turbo, but the GT-R's 4wd and four-wheel-steering system are far more sophisticated.

[VQ]

I also recall u calling the R-32 the best one u can get, and this one and the r33 was too heavy, but Nismo don't sell as many cars as HSV do.

[chris]

Yeah, the R32 was special. It was very compact.

The R34 is easily faster though, since it is a lot more modern, and the cars do improve over the years.

R33 was the bigger one, but the R34 has downsized a bit. It's nothing short of amazing the way these cars perform. They are really exceptional.

I'd wager that for a race-event like Targa Tasmania, you'd have to go to extreme lengths to get a car more competitive in all conditions than something like the R34 GT-R V.Spec N1.

Maybe a Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale would do, but it's considerably more expensive too. But its impressive for a AUD$160,000 (to import a brand new 300+kW GT-R V.Spec N1 from Japan when they were still built) car that it can keep up with AUD$300,000 911 Turbos, and AUD$224,000 911 GT3's.

I think the only thing preventing a Skyline GT-R from winning Targa Tasmania outright is that the GT-R needs a good driver, to give it a chance against the rival 911 Turbos usually driven by some of the best race-drivers in Australia (such as the veteran rain-master Jim Richards).

I'd love to see someone take a Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale to Targa Tasmania. It'd suit that event well.

It'd be even better to enter one yourself in that event. By all measures, the 360 CS is very capable and puts very serious performance in a reasonably user-friendly and not too raw package. Even if you didn't have the driving skills to take one to an outright win, it'd still be a lot of fun to drive one reasonably quick for a few days, but driving within your limits.

[VQ]

the only real p[roblem i ahve witht he GTR is that it was never sold in Australia new which is incredibly annoying for me.

[chris]

Yes it was. Nissan sold 100 of the R32 model in 1990 or 1991.

There were plans to sell more but the unfortunate economic conditions at the time (a recession) basically meant that nobody wanted to drive sports-cars.

Benz even had to do SL280's and S280's just to ensure those model ranges didn't stop selling altogether.

Sadly, Nissans boss here in Australia fails to realise that economic climate has changed dramatically, sportscar sales are doing well, and heaps of Skyline GT-R's are being privately imported. Why doesn't Nissan Australia take advantage of that? It's obvious the Skyline is popular.

Leon Daphne knows that a new GT-R will be on the horizon soon (possibly with 3.5 litre twin-turbo V6, or a 4.5 litre V8), and he promises that he will fight to get it. But I wonder. Head-office in Japan might force the issue hopefully.

It'd be nice to see Skyline on sale again. Although the Teana 350 they sell as Maxima here is not bad, it's a poor second to the rear-wheel-drive, and four-wheel-drive Skyline range. Skyline would be an ideal car for Nissan to sell should it wish to take on the Subaru Legacy (known as Liberty here) properly.

A Skyline 350 Coupé might even be a nice rival for the Mazda RX-8, if it could be priced on or near AUD$60,000. It's got the luxury and techno gadgets to justify the price, and the performance is up to the task. (It's got nearly as much power as a 350Z).

[Commander]

Out of curiosity, how do the Skylines handle anyway? They look light in weight, yet somehow still look a bit clumsy; kinda like a 70's Camaro, for raw example. Do they huddle close to rollercoaster-like, or sway like a sailboat on the skidpad? :why:

[chris]

GT-R's are very agile. But they also have enormous grip, with the 4wd.

They did well in racing too:
http://www.nispares.com.au/GTR1.JPG
http://www.nispares.com.au/GTR2.JPG
http://www.nispares.com.au/GTR3.JPG
http://www.nispares.com.au/GTR4.JPG
http://www.nispares.com.au/GTR6.JPG

That's the awesome Gibson Motorsport Group A version of the R32 Skyline GT-R. It was a giant killer. It totally destroyed the Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth. It was incredibly fast, and won nearly everything.

Some of the specs said 550bhp for this 2.6 litre twin-turbo inline six, but it was actually about 630bhp. It is from a time when the race cars were still production based, as is obvious when looking at the photos above. It still has a lot of standard interior bits, and a lot of other stuff is production based. Now the touring cars here are almost like silhouette cars in comparison.

The one pictured is 1992 vintage. It was extremely fast. Jim Richards commented on how the thing really did well climbing the hills on the Bathurst race circuit. It also did well on the long straight, hitting 290km/hr, in a short period of time.

In the wet, it was totally unbeatable. And of course, it had Jim Richards driving it, and he is known as a talented wet-weather driver.

This GT-R also had multiple modes in its 4wd system for wet or dry race-conditions, and Fred Gibson also developed a switch that, when used, made the car think it was rear-wheel-drive momentarily on race starts until the car got rolling, then it would engage 4wd. Neat. ;)

[monaro]

above is the only skyline i would ever respect, that R-32 was a definate beast.

R-33 was the fat ugly brother no-one likes and the R-34 is like the brother every ricer thinks can beat every car ever built. can someone say Mclaren F1 LM

[Wazza]

How much should a '90 or '91 R32 Skyline be worth these days?

I saw one at a car yard driving by, and it was about NZ$26,000 (AU$23,000), and I'm sure the window sticker said GT-R. Some cars have the body kits, but obviously don't have all the extras and nice 4WD

[VQ]

U do know Chris, that the only resembalence that enigne had to the road car was the block? The rest was all australian made parts, hollinger gearbox (but then again they all had different gearboxes) and from wat I ahve read the engine was worth 100,000 comapred to a normal RB26DETT motor whcih is about 12,000 second hand so it had some serious gear in it, on the other hand, the VN Group A, that was a beast, but they managed to sell 330 and about 700 motors and the manifold is a very good piece of kit (the twin throttle body manifold on the group a)

Just my rant about Y i don't like it thatz all.

[blackice111288]

Originally posted by Vqcapricedude
U do know Chris, that the only resembalence that enigne had to the road car was the block? The rest was all australian made parts, hollinger gearbox (but then again they all had different gearboxes) and from wat I ahve read the engine was worth 100,000 comapred to a normal RB26DETT motor whcih is about 12,000 second hand so it had some serious gear in it, on the other hand, the VN Group A, that was a beast, but they managed to sell 330 and about 700 motors and the manifold is a very good piece of kit (the twin throttle body manifold on the group a)

Just my rant about Y i don't like it thatz all.


what else stays original on any other road race car besides the block and some of the frame?


oh, well, i think its nice.
2001 NISSAN SKYLINE R34 GT-R V-Spec II NISMO R-1 VIN#: BNR34-401610
Vehicle Condition

It is in showroom condition. All interior power features are in fine condition, Immaculate carbon fiber interior moldings, True in-dash Navigation, All power options are included. True AWD, 6-spd transmission, certified Nismo R-1 V-spec II.

V-Spec II R34 R-1 Specs:

Engine: RB26-R1 (serial #43)

450ps/7600rpm

Torque: 48kg/5600rpm

Engine Max Revolution: 8000rpm (recommended @7600)

NISMO Modified parts spec. list:

Turbine, Camshaft, Injectors, Oil Cooler, Radiator, Intercooler, Clutch, Muffler, Intake Manifold, Suspension set, Front Bumper, Side Skirt, Rear Spoiler, Shift Knob.

All parts listed above are New Nismo certified. R34 V-Spec II R-1 Fully tuned by NISMO of Ibaraki, Japan.

Brembo upgrade brake assembly.
HID Light kit

Original Nissan Engine block.
Original Pistons and Con-Rod.
Est. @450hp. (NISMO MONSTER Machine)

its gotta run at least low 12's high 11's and handle like on rails.

i think the r32 and r34 were the best ones. to bad movies like the Fast and the furious made the whole ricer world know about skylines.

[VQ]

Also, the new Maxima, is damn UGLY!! I hate it, the whiole thing looks bangled up but because itz Nissan and Japenese u will ignore that fact right? thought so. LOL

I like the 100 Nissan Skyline GT-rs that were imported here new with a warrenty, the rest can all go to hell as far as I'm concerned.

And Blackice: the competition (ie other then the holden) was complelety modififed too and they road version wasn't for sale in stock base form like the VN Group A was and that did hvae race stuff on it but the engines, heads, crank, rods and manifold were ont he road car too. unlike the Skyline and other turbo cars and everythign else which had new ones of each fo them made. When Jim Richards and Mark Skaife won they also booed him on and off and damn right too.

[Vette Boss]

Originally posted by Vqcapricedude
Also, the new Maxima, is damn UGLY!! I hate it, the whiole thing looks bangled up but because itz Nissan and Japenese u will ignore that fact right? thought so. LOL


Pretty ignorant statement there. Just because the car is ugly in your opinion, that doesn't mean another person is wrong for liking it. There are plenty of Japanese cars I don't like because of something about the styling or engine is a turn-off, but I wouldn't say I hate it, as in I want them all condemned.

There are also many cars I have a dislike for, but I never tell someone they are wrong if they liked it. People have different tastes.

[chris]

That crowd was wrong to do that. Damn wrong.

Idiot Dick Johnson had stirred up the Ford fans into frenzy, because he thought he had been robbed of a victory wrongly.

I liked Jim Richards response. The crowd truly deserved it. Talk about kicking someone when they were down. That's not the way to treat someone who had his best friend die tragically on the same day. (from a heart-attack).

The GT-R I showed before is a lot more standard than the cars that race today. It still has bits of the standard interior left on it, the bodywork is still pretty much standard, with the exception of some very small changes. And the engine still resembles the production engine, an RB26DETT. Not like V8 supercars today. Ford engines don't resemble production engines (not even the same type), Holden engines are not the same type as the road-going ones for instance.

I didn't mind the Group A formula where it was all basically production based. They still basically were the same type of car as the production one, although in all cases they were tuned up for racing as is natural. But the engines were basically still the same type as the road-car engines. But also there was a lot more variety back then, it made the races more interesting.

There were little 4 cylinder BMW M3's, Ford Sierras, Group A Commodores (with a slightly larger than normal engine), Skyline GT-R's, and others over time had been raced, like very pretty BMW 635CSi (black and gold colour scheme), Mazda RX-7, even some V12 Jaguar XJ-S's.

That's a wonderful variety of what could be described as very different types and styles of cars. Why can we not have this sort of variety in motorsport now, and without worthless parity adjustments. The parity adjustment systems are bad too. And there is a lot of fraud with them too. They are open to abuse, particularly from big, cashed up teams, against smaller teams.

If only we could go back to the old style of racing. Things were better in those days.

Not just touring cars here, but, in other forms of racing too, like the World Sports Car championship. Now it's fallen down from the glory days of the 1970's and 1980's. =((

And I happen to think the new Maxima sold here, better known as Nissan Teana 350 is quite good looking. It's definately a great improvement over the old bland looking thing. Finally it gets a designer interior, and some exterior styling that exhibits some reasonable flair, without resorting to ugly design elements.

The trunk lid on the Teana shows BMW exactly how it could have been done as far as styling is concerned.

[VQ]

I didn't know Jim Richards Freind had died and I'm sure they didn't either but the VN Group A had the same 304 capacity they changed when the Group a rules came in so itz a 4.9 technically.

But I don't like Nissans much because my Dad doesn't either nad I follow wat he likes.

[chris]

The crowd knew. Many of them saw it happen. Clive Dennis Hulme (better known as Denny Hulme, the man of Mclaren sports-car racing fame) died at the wheel of his Group A BMW M3, after a heart attack. It was the reason for the accident.

He had a heart-attack, and lost control of the car as a result, from memory. It was a long time ago sadly, and time does dull the memories somewhat. :(

Pretty tragic way to go. And probably painful too.

I remember Ayrton Senna said somewhat disturbingly during one interview that if he ever did have a bad accident, he hoped that it would just be over and done with quickly, and end right away. :(

He was an emotional person, Senna. Not only about racing, but about the things outside of racing, like poverty, and people going hungry, and trying to help through some charities. I don't think it was an act either. Not with the way he snapped when asked to talk about F1 again.

Back on the original topic though, but I really believe it was unfair how the crowd reacted. I blame Dick Johnson mostly for stirring them up. Richards and Skaife won the race in a fair manner, crashing after the race was declared because of the horrific weather conditions. It was so wet that even the Skyline GT-R had to creep around quite slowly, yet still got caught by a big puddle of water (it aqua-planed right across the water).

[VQ]

A Torana Beat a XY GTHO III in the wet tho.

You see I don't know these things, I can only remeber back to the 1993 Bathurst with Dad when I was 5.

But I still don't like Nissan. I eman with Holden take the EA vs the VN for example, the XF had the market but the VN came out and the Falcon fell on the market didn't it? disregarding the fact they didn't have a v8 the Holden was still a markert leader and thatz because people prefer Holdens.

[Vette Boss]

Is it possible for you to think about anything else other than Holden? Every post I see by you is Holden, this and Holden that. They are nice cars, yes, but you can actually go overboard with it.

[chris]

Oh well, he likes Holden.. You like Nissan Altima.

And I have a somewhat irrational love of Lamborghini Diablos. I see one and all common logic goes out the window.. ;)

If all you have to worry about is someone supporting a particular brand of car a lot, then, well, you've not got much to worry about. :)

We don't have flame wars here at this message board thank god, and we don't have much problems with people spamming this board.

We've got a nice family atmosphere around this place.

[wello]

Originally posted by Vette Boss
Is it possible for you to think about anything else other than Holden? Every post I see by you is Holden, this and Holden that. They are nice cars, yes, but you can actually go overboard with it.

can I answer this for VQ the A would be no ^_^

[VQ]

I also like Volkswagons a lot, Chevy's too and I don't mind Lambo's and Ferraris either, Mercedes Benzs too, itz jsut that I can get a magazine dedicated to Commodores and there fore I read that, I also read one on general Street Machines (IE V8 powered muscle cars) but i just know more about Holden.

[blackice111288]

And I have a somewhat irrational love of Lamborghini Diablos. I see one and all common logic goes out the window..

that obviously goes for VQ:D

you should broaden your horizions and actually try and learn about or at least respect other cars. i dont car to much for the muscle cars, but theres a couple i respect, and i know technical info about them (partly cause my dad and my granddads on both sides grew up in/with these things so i have no choice but to know about them and that i used o like them a little bit, and so when big-block heads try and tell me any muscle car cany smoke any import i can make em look stupid)



But I still don't like Nissan.
i dont like fords but i wont sit and say a fast ford wont beat a car that i like


quote: Also, the new Maxima, is damn UGLY!! I hate it, the whiole thing looks bangled up but because itz Nissan and Japenese u will ignore that fact right? thought so. LOL

actually i think it looks pretty good (but its different tho) and 265 hp stock is nothing to sneeze at. and there is a few japanese cars i dont like, altho not many, but nobody was even talking about maximas in the first place!!

i dont know why every time some one posts a fast car that japanese you always go off like " its ugly, jap cars are slow, 600hp is slow cause a holden can have 1200hp and even tho a skyline can make 1300hp it wont beat a peter star or whatever holden cause they win the burn out competions."