View Full Version : Nice little Mercedes Benz for sale.
chris
02-09-2004, 04:20 AM
http://www.brabus.de/fahrzeugangebote/bb2e.pl?10
I thought I'd mention this nice little Mercedes Benz I noticed for sale.
It's particularly handy for nice open-top cruising, with 1026Nm@1750rpm and 471kW!!
It is hard not to love these totally over-the-top Benz cars. The price is a little bit extreme. :eek:
blackice111288
02-09-2004, 07:51 AM
i'd be dead in a week. that thing looks fast sitting still.
cool rims too
skyline_drifter
02-09-2004, 08:05 AM
hello anyone here?
chris
02-09-2004, 08:11 AM
blackice111288: Brabus does some mean cars.. I remember the widened CLK they did a while back, with a V12 engine powering it.
I think it had a top speed of 370km/hr!
DCsplash
02-09-2004, 10:45 AM
oh yes,, i think i could live with that..
Not far behind in terms of bhp, are Kleemann, but with a extra 10km/h top speed, for what it's worth at those extremes^_^ ..
Kleeman seem a bit more subtle, very understated with their accessories, where Brabus, are sometime so over the top, they look positively tacky..
http://www.kleemann.dk/cars/index.htm
Looks awsome!!! I bet with allthem gadgets u wouldn't be able to kill urself tho.
blackice111288
02-10-2004, 02:00 PM
Originally posted by Vqcapricedude
Looks awsome!!! I bet with allthem gadgets u wouldn't be able to kill urself tho.
probably could if i was drifting and messed up (like that'll happen, i'll probably never get in that car, let alone drift it:D )
chris
02-10-2004, 04:14 PM
Drifting a Benz like that will never happen.. It won't let you do that. It only has to get even slightly into oversteer or understeer and it quickly says enough is enough and the stability program intervenes.
With the car, it's all about power and torque, mostly overtaking performance.
blackice111288
02-10-2004, 05:38 PM
there should be a option an supercars to but them with out traction controll systems for the people that know how to drive.:D
chris
02-10-2004, 05:48 PM
Benz you know is still very conservative. And they are very worried about having a car without ESP, and then someone crashing it and injuring themselves, and possibly taking legal action as a result.
That said, the electronic stability program in the SL and also notably in the current S600 (5.5 litre V12 Biturbo) has a higher threshold than usual before it intervenes. It will allow a bit of power oversteer, but if it thinks things are getting very out of shape, it will intervene to keep the car pointed straight.
blackice111288
02-10-2004, 05:57 PM
isn't htere any way to override that ESP? like a chip or something?
Vette Boss
02-11-2004, 07:42 PM
Originally posted by blackice111288
isn't htere any way to override that ESP? like a chip or something?
I know that the BMW E46 M3 has several buttons on the dashboard that lets you disable the stability controls for example, but I am not sure about Mercedes-Benz.
chris
02-11-2004, 09:04 PM
Sure, there is an ESP off button, but that doesn't completely switch the electronic nanny off. It just goes into a standby mode, ready to react whenever it thinks the car might be about to get out of control.
So it will allow a little power-oversteer and a little bit of wheelspin, but provoke excessive amounts of either, and it switches itself back on.
I remember also that the system was also linked to this very irritating /!\ triangle in the middle of the speedometre. Switch ESP off and the triangle lights up in bright orange. And when the vehicle is at the limits of traction the triangle starts blinking, worriedly.
We might all whinge about the more intrusive ESP systems, but I think on cars like this Brabus SL 6.3 Biturbo and other outrageously potent cars that it is nice that the system is there.
On BMW's, it's quite different. Once BMW's DSC system is switched off, it is off, and it stays off until you activate it again.
Benz isn't the only one to have a very intrusive electonic sheriff, Subaru has one as well on some models that does similar things.
I don't know about the F1 safety cars however. Those are Mercedes Benz cars usually, often a CLK55 AMG, or a thundering SL55 AMG, or the CL55 F1 AMG used at one point. They are usually driven by the likes of Oliver Gavin (back when the old shape CLK55 was still used) or Bernd Maylander.
242.730,17 EUR :eek:
Saw the first Maybach yesterday, looked ugly ^_^
blackice111288
02-12-2004, 02:19 PM
Subaru has one as well on some models that does similar things.
i guess not in the new Sti's, i hear that if you want wheelspin, burnouts, drifts, powerslides, more wheelspin, thats the car for you. looks like i need 30 something thousand.:D
Wazza
02-13-2004, 10:50 AM
Do you like trashing your cars? :D
Why don't you be the one with the innovation, such as new compound tyres. Maybe ones made out of hard slippery jelly. Then there wouldn't be any trouble in trying to drift the car! ;)
PS. Very nice car, however looking at it on the street without knowing it was a 6.3litre V12 twin turbo, I would think it had a typical 260-300kW, and 0-100 in a low 5 sec. hehe. I guess I would get my butt kicked in a drag.
chris
02-13-2004, 04:47 PM
I saw the little brother of this SL on the TV yesterday, the Brabus E V12 6.3 Biturbo. :love:
What a car. Do away with the Brabus badges, and it could almost be the most subtle looking high performance car ever. Only the vents on the engine hood might give it away, and the ever-present rumble from the engine.
I made a recording of the drive-report. I might convert it to a *.wmv and upload it.